On May 30, 2013, at 6:25 PM, david buchanan <[email protected]> wrote:

> dmb says:
> The contradiction is both clear and epic. 
> Where Pirsig says, "the world is primarily a moral order" and "value is the 
> fundamental ground-stuff of the world,"  DJH says, "All things are mystically 
> degenerate".

Marsha:
This is much like the contradiction where RMP says "Change is probably the 
first concept emerging from this Dynamic experience...", dmb says "DQ, or 
reality itself is ever-changing. That's what "dynamic" means".  
 
 
 
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