Hi Arlo, Marsha: What may be interesting about Lila is her *recognizing* the social level's "naive realism" in the psychological sense: whatever people think being what is "real" - reality. This recognition is evident In Chapter 14: "You don't see that. It's your questions that make me who I am. If you think I 'm an angel then that's what I am. If you think I'm a whore then that's what I am. I'm whatever you think." It is insightful, but I doubt that it would raise her the the level of a mystic.
Marsha On Jun 22, 2013, at 4:44 PM, ARLO JAMES BENSINGER JR <[email protected]> wrote: > [David] > The 'Cosmic' Lila described here, like the Lila in the book clearly do not > value 'staticness'. To them static is evil. They all follow another kind > of good which is completely different to static good.. > > [Arlo] > In LILA, Pirsig points out the Hippie movement failed because: The Hippie > rejection of social and intellectual patterns left just two directions to go: > toward biological quality and toward Dynamic Quality. The revolutionaries of > the sixties thought that since both are anti-social, and since both are > anti-intellectual, why then they must both be the same. That was the mistake. > > Lila, the character, also rejects static patterns, but how do you see her > trajectory as being different than the hippies? How do you see her pursuit as > avoid the mistake of the hippies? How do you see Lila, the character, pursing > Dynamic Quality but the Hippies pursuing biological quality? Can you offer me > reasons to support your implied position that Lila was a mystic of some sort, > and not, like the hippies, confusing biological and Dynamic Quality. > > [David] > This Dynamic Quality - good and evil - is supported by the Code of Art in the > MOQ. > > [Arlo] > Can you give me examples in LILA where Lila pursues a "Code of Art"? > > [David] > "This last, the Dynamic-static code, says what's good in life isn't defined > by society or intellect or biology. What's good is freedom from domination by > any static pattern, but that freedom doesn't have to be obtained by the > destruction of the patterns themselves." > > [Arlo] > Doesn't this apply to the Hippies as well? Why would Pirsig characterize > their 'freedom from domination by any static pattern' as a mistake, and if it > was a mistake, how does Lila avoid that mistake? > > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
