> [Marsha] > I was thinking more of this: > Sax (1995) notes that lila is an important concept and remains part of > ordinary Hindu life. When he asked Indian people what lila meant, they would > often tell him that “God created the world in the spirit of Lila, like a > child who builds sandcastles and then unattached to his or her creation > knocks it down and builds it again” (p. 3). In Gitanjali, Tagore uses this > same image adding "in truth, in self-willed joy, there is something in common > between the lila of childhood and the works of God” (Sax, p. 3). The notion > of lila is also used to explain human suffering. Mysterious and tragic > events are viewed as part of the mysterious play of the gods. Lila reflects > the spontaneous nature of the Divine, being not entirely predictable. Sax > notes that while this concept could lead to resignation, when it is embraced, > it is often regarded as emancipatory. ( > http://cosmicplay.net/Cosmic/Cosmoq/cosmiclila1.html ) > > Worlds (levels) are built like "sandcastles" and "unattached to his [RMP's] > creation knocks it down and builds it again." RMP reminds us throughout the > text, especially Chapter 5 & Chapter 32, not to become too attached to the > concepts. (Kill all intellectual patterns.) - And in the end, the letting > go of the doll through ritual, the twirling like a child, is emancipatory. > But I DO NOT think that these patterns are unimportant. Play is utterly > important, and it is not valueless. Maybe being adults we have forgotten > this. Watch a young child play. It is intense. It is important. We have > forgotten. - In spite of the false rumors, I very much appreciate static > patterns. Without them there is only a mental white noise.
[David] Yes. But these Dynamic values you speak of are only part of the value which is discussed in Lila. You mentioned two chapters which discuss Dynamic Quality, but there are other values discussed in many other chapters as well which you neglect by your exclusive value of Dynamic Quality. While you do say in words that you value static quality - I can only see you ever really speak of the value of Dynamic Quality. You say that without static quality there is only 'mental white noise'. What does that mean? Without static quality there is Dynamic Quality - that's it. And to me - 'mental white noise' conjures up a very static quality image which is not Dynamic Quality. So - this muddying of the clear distinction between static quality and Dynamic Quality creates not only intellectual ugliness but is mystically meaningless and chaotic. To be clear - you struggle to articulate them but static quality values are things like fixedness, oldness, rankness and complex.. "Static quality, the moral force of the priests, emerges in the wake of Dynamic Quality. It is old and complex. It always contains a component of memory. Good is conformity to an established pattern of fixed values and value objects. Justice and law are identical. Static morality is full of heroes and villains, loves and hatreds, carrots and sticks. Its values don't change by themselves. Unless they are altered by Dynamic Quality they say the same thing year after year. Sometimes they say it more loudly, sometimes more softly, but the message is always the same." Can you see the quality of static quality and how it is just about the complete opposite to your own values? For instance if we held an intellectual discussion whereby we each have differing static values and we try and rank and determine which values are better - can you see the value in that? This is a very static ways of determining what's good. Different to what your used to - but good nonetheless for without static quality there is chaos.. "Life can't exist on Dynamic Quality alone. It has no staying power. To cling to Dynamic Quality alone apart from any static patterns is to cling to chaos. He saw that much can be learned about Dynamic Quality by studying what it is not rather than futilely trying to define what it is." Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
