Hi David,

On Jun 23, 2013, at 4:08 AM, David Harding <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Marsha:
>> What may be interesting about Lila is her *recognizing* the social level's 
>> "naive realism" in the psychological sense: whatever people think being what 
>> is "real" - reality.  This recognition is evident In Chapter 14: "You don't 
>> see that. It's your questions that make me who I am. If you think I 'm an 
>> angel then that's what I am. If you think I'm a whore then that's what I am. 
>> I'm whatever you think."   It is insightful, but I doubt that it would raise 
>> her to the level of a mystic.
> 
> David:
> Yes - there is a difference between the insane Lila and the mystics.   While, 
> as you point out, Lila rejects cultural patterns much like a mystic - she 
> does eventually settle into (insane) static patterns of her own while a 
> mystic would reject all patterns including their own.
> 
>> Marsha:
>> Perhaps if she had demonstrated this insightful understanding throughout the 
>> book she might have qualified as a mystic, but she clearly did not.  She 
>> lapsed into pronouncing social judgements based on "whatever she thought" 
>> quite often.  If she had demonstrated a consistent non-attachment to static 
>> patterns (killed them all), she might have risen to that of a wise sage.  
>> There was no tragic or happy ending to the story, so we are free to 
>> speculate, or not.
> 
> David:
> I agree. However at the end of the book the talking doll makes it pretty 
> clear that it's doubtful she'll ever work through these patterns and that 
> Rigel (with his social moralist ego) has her for life. 
> 


Marsha:
Yes, it doesn't look good for the Lila character.  How about the episode 
between the Captain and the talking doll - the ritual - and his twirling around 
like a child - casting aside attachment.  Freedom.   I see the book, LILA, 
representing the game of life more attuned to the Hindu Goddess as presented in 
the website.  
 
 
 
 

 
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