[Dan to Ant]
What possible difference does Marsha's gender make on an intellectual 
discussion list?

[Arlo]
Well, I think if we start from Pirsig's recognition that "our intellectual 
description of nature is always culturally defined", and realize that the 
"culture" males and females experience is often quite divergent. The same 
applies to ethnicity, and this difference is elevated where racism is more 
prevalent. Although these cultural boundaries tend to be quite fractal 
(revealing subcultures and narration differences between individuals down to 
the smallest binary), I think recognizing, at the very least, the larger 
cultural dissimilarities formed by the enculturation is a worthwhile endeavor. 

[Dan]
If I were a black Asiatic woman living in a Jewish settlement in eastern 
Siberia and who grew up on the shores of Lake Baikal would that suddenly make 
my contributions more interesting? Would my intellectual insights become 
remarkably more profound?

[Arlo]
Maybe. I don't see Ant privileging the voices of 'non-white, non-males', just 
recognizing that culture does shape our intellectual patterns. I mean, the 
entirety of Northrop's "Meeting of East and West" is a recognition that culture 
influences thought, and that these perspectives can be significant enough to 
craft extremely different intellectual discourses. 

As someone who works with international students, from literally every corner 
of the world (except the poles), my experience is that we often don't even 
recognize the cultural underpinnings to our intellectual ideas until they are 
contrasted with intellectual ideas grown in a quite different cultural milieu. 
So I think the emphasis is on bringing in voices where you suspect 
enculturation has produced divergent intellectual discourses and see if that's 
true, and if it is what does it imply. This is, really, how Northrop's entire 
project could be framed. You won't always find significant differences, but its 
worth the effort.

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