As an outsider i can only conclude

Al the boys are in love with the only girl in the classroom.

Why don't you all send her a postcard to tell her your inner most feelings
and get it over with.

And then again back to business.

Kind regards,

Eddo


2013/8/2 Ant McWatt <[email protected]>

> Dave,
>
> You're lucky to have caught me.  I was just going out for my local Klan's
> Anti-Muslim Women week.  One of my favourite times of the year!  We
> especially despise these culturally backward people who hide behind full
> length dress.  Not in the West, man, no Siree, are we accepting such
> backward behaviour!
>
> Anyway, as I have a spare ten minutes while I just put my head dress on...
>
> ----------------------------------------
> Dave Buchanan posted August 1st 2013:
>
> Marsha said to Ant McWatt:
> >
> > I can accept that dmb has different value judgements than mine as a
> result of our different histories and current patterns of values.
> >
> >
> >
> > Ant Mcwatt said to his dear Marsha:
> >
> > What you have said is true but in this context of a philosophical
> discussion group if you just produce the occasional mystical quote then you
> won't be making the most of your knowledge about Pirsig's work or the
> Discussion group. ...Though you have provided some good links and
> references over the years, I can't remember reading one of your numerous
> posts and thinking "Hey, that's a good way of putting of that!". ...the
> production of quotes is very static. In fact, it could be considered a form
> of trolling. ...Unfortunately, you can't be removed from this discussion
> group for being boring though - in future - I do hope to hear more original
> thoughts from the "real" Marsha than these mystical quotes. I know you're
> relatively very well read so you could do a lot more to help people new to
> the MOQ (and Pirsig's work in general).
> >
> >
> >
>
> DMB said:
>
> It seems that you're trying to help, Doc, but you're very much missing the
> point.
>
> Doc McWatt says:
>
> The point is on the top of my head dress, Boy; look up and you'll see it
> clearly!  As for missing it, I don't miss my point, I just miss my gimp
> suit.  Sadly, my black boyfriend took it with him in 1972 when he left me.
> That's why I joined the klan, Dave, I miss my gimp suit.  (Please say a
> prayer for me and ask Baby Jesus to find the Doc's gimp suit.  The Doc
> doesn't mean to be racist, he just wants his gimp suit back).
>
> DMB said:
>
> I dare say that you might even be making it worse. As you've construed it,
> Marsha's deployment of naked quotes is boring, unoriginal, and represents a
> lost opportunity to helpfully contribute her knowledge of the MOQ.
>
> Doc McWatt says:
>
> Naked quotes...  Yeah, I know not everyone (and especially those of a
> sensitive gentle nature) can handle those naked quotes...
>
> DMB continued:
>
> The problem is that Marsha's quotes are irrelevant - absurd non-sequitors
> - and she uses them to evade the substance of the matter. The only honest
> and fair way to deal with this situation is to deal with the substance of
> the matter. This is exactly what Marsha refuses to do and you're not doing
> it either. How many times do I have to point out that this is a
> philosophical discussion group? How about if we discuss philosophical ideas
> and their relative merits? If we would only do what we're supposed to be
> doing, everyone (including you, I hope) would clearly see that Marsha has
> nothing to contribute. (I have asked you to examine her "original" thoughts
> and please explain how they are anything other than unintelligible
> gibberish. Except for Arlo, it seems that nobody has addressed the
> substance of these complaints.)
>
> Doc McWatt says:
>
> Funny you should say that, Mr DMB.  I was just reading St. Paul Turner's
> letter to the "UnDivine Marsha" of June 17th and it was "Spot the Dummie"
> time!  Was it St. Paul or the UnDivine Marsha?
>
> Let's all go back and see:
>
> Dan's bird:
>
> > The "Dummies Guide" reference is cute.  -  I've read a number of
> different
> > texts by Nagarjuna, and there should be nothing odd about my accepting a
> > static pattern as a mirage.  I'm sure you probably read Jay Garfield's
> > translation/interpretation of the MMK.  While he's not the Buddha or
> > Nagarjuna, he might illuminate the use of mirage...
>
>
> St. Paul:
>
> I'm glad you saw the humour there but I've stopped laughing and now I feel
> like the Dummie because Nagarjuna is indeed translated as using "mirage" in
> MMK.  I do like Jay Garfield.  I've only read a couple of essays and his
> analysis of the MMK.  I haven't read the book you quote from below.
>
>
> Who's looking the Dummie now? (Remember, I haven't had my gimp suit on for
> 41 years so it ain't me).
>
>
> DMB continued:
>
> What reason do we have to believe that Marsha understands anything about
> the MOQ? And surely there is a difference between reading a lot and reading
> well. As far as I can tell, she has never understood anything I've ever
> said, never got the point of anything and never given a proper answer to
> any criticism.
>
> Doc McWatt says:
>
> She's teasing you Boy!  Don't fall for it.  (This is the type of thing
> that can happen when someone doesn't have a gimp suit.  They have to
> make-up their own different type of... "private entertainment").
>
>
> DMB continued:
>
> This is irresponsible and dishonest. It's disruptive. It's produces
> nothing but hostility, confusion and distraction. But as you've construed
> it, Marsha has only hidden her secret intellectuality by using the wrong
> style! Seriously, what reason is there to think she understands the MOQ? I
> don't see any evidence of that. I believe that when I see it.
>
> Doc McWatt says:
>
> That makes two of us though not many people can say they've made St. Paul
> feel a Dummie at Discuss.  However, if Dan's girl can do that in the
> context of Jay Garfield (one cool cat) then who knows regarding Captain
> Bob's MOQ!
>
>
> ---cut---
>
>
> DMB concluded:
>
> Gender is a totally bogus reason to retain an incompetent troll and I
> hardly think Connecticut counts as a different culture. C'mon, Doc. Now
> you're being silly.
>
> The MOQ's moral codes say that social and biological values should not be
> allowed to interfere with intellectual progress, right? What do you suppose
> that means with respect to this discussion group? I think it means that
> one's merit is measured by basic intellectual standards, at least. And we
> hope that is done artfully. But simply refusing to do it at all? I think
> that's obviously not acceptable.
>
>
> Doc McWatt ends on a high (no smoking now kids!):
>
> A quoteless Dan's girl will either raise her game or drop like a stone.
>
> I've
>  seen the books, the Art, the cool cats.  Me and the cats even had to
> compete
>  for the bed.  Cary Grant had a big cat problem in Connecticut too but
> unlike me he didn't have my Little Richard CD collection with him
> (way too cool for the average cat!).
>
> Peace and love and all that,
>
> The Doc
>
>
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