Marsha to Andre:
I meant seeing how the exploration and discoveries apply as a living
philosophy. After all, that motorcycle maintenance metaphor (motorcycle
and mechanic) is pointing to working on oneself.
Andre:
What you 'mean' and what you actually do are two different things. You
think the MoQ is Reality. You think the MoQ is a 'living philosophy'. By
combining the two all you do here is to pass judgement on anyone who
presents something that does not stroke with your egocentric experience
as 'mere opinion' (and many more of the same derogatory responses).
The MoQ is a metaphysics, a static intellectual pattern of values, a as
Wilber would term it, trans-personal programme. It is NOT a set of
meditative injunctions although some of these may be derived from it and
applied to one's specific life history and circumstances. But to then
apply and make value judgements about the MoQ (and change them as you so
often do) as one prgresses on the meditative 'path' is dangerous and in
many ways insulting to Pirsig's efforts.
By insisting on a narrow egocentric interpretation as you do all the
time you create havoc and leave a trial of ravages not unlike the
ravages Lila left behind her. Totally oblivious, totally ignorant and of
course always blaming the other. Your identification with the Lila
character, especially with the chapter 14 conversation is obvious. THAT
is also egotripping.
And, as self proclaimed Buddhist explorer of the MoQ
you(conveniently?)forget the Buddha's first and foremost teaching (all
too often not mentioned). He realised, after his own meditative practice
that there IS NO SELF. This is the first and foremost of Buddha's teaching.
Now work that one out in the privacy of your room full of mirrors
without doing damage to Pirsig's MoQ.
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