Marsha to Andre:
I meant seeing how the exploration and discoveries apply as a living philosophy. After all, that motorcycle maintenance metaphor (motorcycle and mechanic) is pointing to working on oneself.

Andre:
What you 'mean' and what you actually do are two different things. You think the MoQ is Reality. You think the MoQ is a 'living philosophy'. By combining the two all you do here is to pass judgement on anyone who presents something that does not stroke with your egocentric experience as 'mere opinion' (and many more of the same derogatory responses).

The MoQ is a metaphysics, a static intellectual pattern of values, a as Wilber would term it, trans-personal programme. It is NOT a set of meditative injunctions although some of these may be derived from it and applied to one's specific life history and circumstances. But to then apply and make value judgements about the MoQ (and change them as you so often do) as one prgresses on the meditative 'path' is dangerous and in many ways insulting to Pirsig's efforts.

By insisting on a narrow egocentric interpretation as you do all the time you create havoc and leave a trial of ravages not unlike the ravages Lila left behind her. Totally oblivious, totally ignorant and of course always blaming the other. Your identification with the Lila character, especially with the chapter 14 conversation is obvious. THAT is also egotripping.

And, as self proclaimed Buddhist explorer of the MoQ you(conveniently?)forget the Buddha's first and foremost teaching (all too often not mentioned). He realised, after his own meditative practice that there IS NO SELF. This is the first and foremost of Buddha's teaching.

Now work that one out in the privacy of your room full of mirrors without doing damage to Pirsig's MoQ.
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