DM to dmb:
Experience is presented with all sorts of primary differentiations,
sense ranges and variation, now none of these senses give us objects or
things, they are however a complex, changing theatre of senses but they
create primary difference, where the white of the moon ends the black of
the sky begins, this is primary sense difference, why you would want to
deny this and think there is no boundary being experienced here prior to
any conception of black or white, sky or moon, would imply that we were
not experiencing the differences that leads us to take up the concepts I
have just mentioned, otherwise wh at is there to help us decide whether
these concepts are useful or not.
Andre:
Seems to me you're talking about static quality patterns all the way.
Analogies all the way down. Conditioning through parents, teachers,
authorities etc. Phaedrus called it 'hypnotized' into believing in the
analogies all the way down. And he had this to say about it:'In a
sense...it's the student's choice of Quality that defines /him/. People
differ about Quality, not because Quality is different, but because
people are different in terms of experience'(ZMM p 244).
And the '/a priory' /analogues Phaedrus talks about in the next sentence
are not pre-conceptual 'analogues' as you would have it. They are due to
differences in inorganic, organic, social and intellectual patterns of
value. They are the stuff, as the article points towards, that is
BROUGHT INTO the experience. It isn't part of any pre-static 'condition'.
Pure experience: Northrop:the 'undifferentiated aesthetic continuum'.
There are many descriptions of course but anyone who wants to see, in
the 'primary' stuff something which predisposes us to see, feel, taste,
smell, think in a certain way (because it is pre-statically given) is
rapidly becoming a behavioural fundamentalist. (Skinner comes to mind,
but there are others as well). And the real problem comes when this type
of thinking/reasoning does not just stay within the behavioural sphere.
Thanks DAVID M !!!
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