Andre, 

On Oct 14, 2013, at 1:08 PM, Andre Broersen wrote:



>> Marsha to Andre:
>> The static world is not an illusion, the static world is like an illusion.
>> 
>>      All conditioned dharmas 
>>      Are like dreams, illusions, bubbles, shadows, 
>>      Like dew drops and a lightning flash. 
>>      Contemplate them thus.
>>                (The Diamond Sutra)
>> 
> Andre:
> Do you believe that the atomic bombs that dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki 
> were illusory?
> 
> Marsha:
> They were/are as conventionally real, as "real as rocks and trees".
> 
> Andre:
> I am not familiar with Pirsig's use of the 'conventionally real' phrase in 
> the MoQ.


Marsha:
Change the term from 'conventional' to the term 'conditional', and see if that 
helps.  Have you read the MoQ Textbook?  

I wasn't familiar with this MoQ ditty:

'The world is an illusion
Brahman alone is real
Brahman is the world'

I am unfamiliar with RMP's use of 'Brahman'.  Please explain how this relates 
to anything?  


> Andre:
> Basically the MoQ consists of DQ/sq. So from the MoQ perspective I'll ask the 
> question once again:
> 
> 'Do you believe that the atomic bombs that dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki 
> were illusory?'


Marsha:
They were/are as conditionally real, as "real as rocks and trees".  If you want 
more than that, then I don't know.  




Marsha 


 
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