dmb & Andre, I have no direct experience of the atomic bombs that dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Tell me what you know of the atomic bombs that dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and how you know it?
Marsha On Oct 16, 2013, at 2:11 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: dmb & Andre, The purpose of mystic meditation is not to remove oneself from experience but to bring one's self closer to it by eliminating stale, confusing, static, intellectual attachments of the past. " (LILA, Chapter 9) Marsha > On Oct 15, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Andre Broersen <[email protected]> wrote: > > dmb: > > And that is why, I suppose, Andre posed the question the way he did. Marsha's > assertions about the static world being "like an illusion" should raise moral > objections, I think, and it totally makes sense that Andre would frame his > question with the use of atomic weapons and the holocaust. The question > becomes, "in what sense is the murder of millions of innocents like an > illusion"? Saying this is as conventionally real as rocks and trees is > unhelpful as an explanation, of course, and the emotional coldness is more > than a little disturbing. I mean, Pirsig is referring to social and > intellectual values in that quote. Those moral codes are "as real as rocks > and trees". Why is morality so strangely absent from the scene, even when > question so obviously involves morality? I think it's very creepy. > > Andre: > Exactly dmb (as usual). I was quite guarded in my use of words to Marsha but > I do seriously mean a re-consideration of my subscription here. My > participation here with people who espouse ideas that are deeply immoral and > offensive to any not naively thinking human being is, to use a euphemism, > undermining the MoQ (See Anthony's PhD for Pirsig's idea of a 'naively' > thinking person). > > Immersing oneself in the MoQ avoids that type of wavering/malicious bull. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
