Andre: Hugh? What strange twist of argument. Aren't 'percepts' an abstraction, a way of conceptualizing? There is no such thing as a pre-conceptual percept.
DM: Obviously not, we taste things like banana flavour, this is a patterned experience prior to conception. DM: yet we experience sameness and identity and repetition and pattern, Andre: Instead of using the word 'yet' it makes more sense to use 'and because of this' we experience sameness and identity and repetition and pattern. DM: Not to me, you have it round the wrong way, qualities precede concepts. Andre: It seems you are still 'filling' Dq with things that are not there and you seem to underestimate the influence/powerful conditioning which sq 'represents' or rather points to. DM: I recognise tastes, colours, etc prior to concepts, you seem to think ideas create all of reality, obviously ideas transform our reality so as usual there is a dishonest distortion here by you of what I say and think, concepts help explain and divide reality, but there is a reality of experience that concepts help us to more fully experience or cut up in interesting ways or filter, if there are only concepts why ever mention qualities? Your position is just nonsense. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
