Ron, Whether mistaken or not, the questions originally had context. Stripped of the context, for me, they have no meaning or interest. If you'd like to use 'anatta' and 'small self' as a topic for philosophical analysis, please set them up intellectually. I have a whole pile of RMP quotes that I can offer. Or, like some, you can rant.
Marsha --- On Nov 17, 2013, at 10:05 PM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote: Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 15, 2013, at 10:34 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Andre, > > I didn't state that anatta was the same as 'small self'. I'll leave you with > your personal evaluations. There is nothing here I wish to discuss. Notice the questions to Andre began with "who" and "whom"? The questions are pertaining to anatta, or small self? > > Marsha > > > > > >> On Nov 15, 2013, at 5:06 PM, Andre <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Marsha to Ron: >> Notice the questions to Andre began with "who" and "whom"? The questions are >> pertaining to anatta, or small self? >> >> Andre: >> Who the heck do you think you are, on this discuss other than anatta? And, >> by the way, you have it wrong. Anatta refers to 'no-self' which is different >> to small self. To whom is Ron directing his question other than anatta which >> you term 'small self'??? This is the world we live in and what we are!! >> Sq...we ARE these patterns. And, oh...Big Self (no-self) has nothing to say. >> It is silent...I experience this several times a day. But that is not the >> one writing these lines. >> >> Marsha: >> The questions in no way were meant to indicate that "the "right way" means >> whatever one wants it to mean." >> >> Andre: >> Marsha, there is something fundamentally wrong with the way you go about >> this discuss. I'll refer to your 'apology' earlier today: >> >> 'There is so much not available in an email communication. I only see words >> on a screen without any emotional cues. I tend not to want to make things >> personal for that reason. I don't really know you at all. If I misread you >> tone, I apologize. I too easily fall into the pattern of using past >> experiences.' >> >> Andre continues: >> >> Do you not register that a human being types these words? Do you ONLY see >> words and nothing else? >> >> This really confirms my (and some others') idea that you are so suspicious >> of the intellectual level (in your mind= SOM)that you do not see or feel or >> hear any living patterns behind the written language. Anti-intellectualism >> to a sickly extreme. >> >> Do you think that you, on this forum discussing Pirsig's MoQ, are addressed >> as anything other than your 'small self? (Yes, the world and all it's >> inhabitants are an illusion...it's analogies all the way down and up and >> left and right and centered and below and wherever you want them to be) AND >> SO ARE YOU. >> So why not behave as part of that illusion if you want to seriously engage >> in discussions on this Discuss. >> Avoiding discussions and appealing to 'anatta' (i.e. not-self) won't win you >> any flavours or favours. It is a sickly way to escape...because that is what >> it is. An ESCAPE and NOT a constructive way to creatively move a discussion >> along or throw a completely different light on an old topic or simply answer >> a question. NO! You use it as a way to wriggle through, to slither your way >> out of any and every situation. >> >> You asked me the other day on your comment that 'If your speech is not >> useful and beneficial,...it is better to keep silent.': >> >> I gave you my view and you answered:Record of what, and interpreted by whom? >> Who is at the core of such opinion? >> >> It is very obvious that the 'record' you are referring to is your own (just >> check the archives). Interpreted by many readers and participants of this >> discuss. Who or what is at the core of such an opinion? >> >> I'll tell you Marsha: the one who wrote this is the one who reads this. And >> if that is not clear enough: the one who reads this is the one who wrote >> this. >> >> Stop hiding and own up! Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
