Marsha to Ron:
Notice the questions to Andre began with "who" and "whom"? The questions
are pertaining to anatta, or small self?
Andre:
Who the heck do you think you are, on this discuss other than anatta?
And, by the way, you have it wrong. Anatta refers to 'no-self' which is
different to small self. To whom is Ron directing his question other
than anatta which you term 'small self'??? This is the world we live in
and what we are!! Sq...we ARE these patterns. And, oh...Big Self
(no-self) has nothing to say. It is silent...I experience this several
times a day. But that is not the one writing these lines.
Marsha:
The questions in no way were meant to indicate that "the "right way"
means whatever one wants it to mean."
Andre:
Marsha, there is something fundamentally wrong with the way you go about
this discuss. I'll refer to your 'apology' earlier today:
'There is so much not available in an email communication. I only see words on
a screen without any emotional cues. I tend not to want to make things
personal for that reason. I don't really know you at all. If I misread you
tone, I apologize. I too easily fall into the pattern of using past
experiences.'
Andre continues:
Do you not register that a human being types these words? Do you ONLY see words
and nothing else?
This really confirms my (and some others') idea that you are so suspicious of
the intellectual level (in your mind= SOM)that you do not see or feel or hear
any living patterns behind the written language. Anti-intellectualism to a
sickly extreme.
Do you think that you, on this forum discussing Pirsig's MoQ, are addressed as
anything other than your 'small self? (Yes, the world and all it's inhabitants
are an illusion...it's analogies all the way down and up and left and right and
centered and below and wherever you want them to be) AND SO ARE YOU.
So why not behave as part of that illusion if you want to seriously engage in
discussions on this Discuss.
Avoiding discussions and appealing to 'anatta' (i.e. not-self) won't win you
any flavours or favours. It is a sickly way to escape...because that is what it
is. An ESCAPE and NOT a constructive way to creatively move a discussion along
or throw a completely different light on an old topic or simply answer a
question. NO! You use it as a way to wriggle through, to slither your way out
of any and every situation.
You asked me the other day on your comment that 'If your speech is not useful
and beneficial,...it is better to keep silent.':
I gave you my view and you answered:Record of what, and interpreted by whom?
Who is at the core of such opinion?
It is very obvious that the 'record' you are referring to is your own (just
check the archives). Interpreted by many readers and participants of this
discuss. Who or what is at the core of such an opinion?
I'll tell you Marsha: the one who wrote this is the one who reads this. And if
that is not clear enough: the one who reads this is the one who wrote this.
Stop hiding and own up!
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