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> On Dec 12, 2013, at 8:06 PM, Ron Kulp <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Just like the word mankind 
> Composed of " mank" and "ind"
> It's meaning a mystery, just like
> Mankind.
> 
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>> On Dec 12, 2013, at 3:07 PM, Joseph  Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi MarshaV and All,
>> 
>> 
>> The "con" "Cum (with)?" (part of "conceptual"?) left Pirsig with no
>> alternative but to opt for indefinable DQ.  "Con" seems to be attached to
>> Cum latin for with.  Con (with consciousness) and ceptual (capture ?) used
>> together seem to be strange bedfellows!  But metaphysics DQ/SQ conquers all.
>> 
>> Joe
>> 
>> 
>>> On 12/12/13 1:35 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Joe,
>>> 
>>> I consider metaphysics to be a conceptual model of reality.  Can we agree on
>>> this point?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha
>>> 
>>> 
>>> p.s.  For those who are Door fans, I hope you've watched 'The Doors: Mr. 
>>> Mojo
>>> Risin': The Story of L.A. Woman'. On youtube:
>>> http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EYigFBVNwXU
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 11, 2013, at 3:47 PM, Joseph  Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi MarshaV and all,
>>>> 
>>>> Love does not grow from a feeling perspective.  Love flows from 
>>>> metaphysical
>>>> individuality.  I am alone!  Feeling, idea, decision all participate in the
>>>> growing love for individuality.  You Know, like: By this will all men know
>>>> you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.
>>>> 
>>>> Imho Joe 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 12/11/13 3:43 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Feel it in your fingers, feel it in your toes
>>>>>    Love is all around you and so the feeling grows
>>>>>         It is written on the wind, it's everywhere you go
>>>>>              So if you really love me, come on and let it show
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Dec 10, 2013, at 3:36 PM, Joseph  Maurer <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi MarshaV and all,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I suppose idiosyncrasies are discernable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For the discernment of reality by an individual sentient DQ/SQ is a 
>>>>>> proper
>>>>>> format.  I experience the indefinable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> How is that possible?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> SOM based in definition is inadequate to describe social indefinable
>>>>>> reality.  There is no logical argument in defined words able to discern 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> indefinable/individual being in reality.  DQ perception is the ball to 
>>>>>> run
>>>>>> with.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> DQ/SQ indefinable/definable base for knowledge.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Pirsig realized that the existence of an indefinable is still 
>>>>>> discernable!
>>>>>> DQ individuality is known beyond definition.  DQ is observed in the
>>>>>> experience of individuality and 1 follows.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The reality of the individual is DQ/SQ metaphysical reality.  Words used
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the communication of individuality are indefinable and difficult to argue
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> reality.  Metaphysics!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Joe 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 12/10/13 12:51 AM, "MarshaV" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "We are suspended in language", and your posts are suspended in your
>>>>>>> particular idiosyncrasies.
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