Hello Adrie! Good to hear from you too!
Yes I know the Irises painting that you speak of. The painting I saw was a much smaller portrait of a single iris. Van Gogh painted many irises both in groups and by themselves, from what I understand. The town we visited was outside of Sacramento, if I remember rightly. I don't recall the name of it right off hand but it wasn't the Getty Museum in Los Angeles. I'll send you a copy of The Mystery: Zen Stories privately. Thanks again, Dan On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Adrie Kintziger <[email protected]>wrote: > Hi , Dan, long time no see. > > "Irises" was created during confinement in the asylum, in the yard,..but it > was never a single flower, the work is full of irises and their leaves > the confusion is created by Vincent himself because he highlights one > single iris in ...white!, only one among the dark blue ones. > the blue ones are probably japanese irises,and hide themselveves in their > natural abstract blue, probably they where more bright blue when painted, > but the paint aged beautifully. > > http://www.vggallery.com/painting/p_0608.htm#analysis > > below the page is a list of places the work was displayed,probably you did > see it in La? possible? > it is in the possesion of the Getty museum.Vincent made more than one > painting about the subject btw. > > > > https://www.google.be/search?q=iris+laevigata&safe=off&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=EZS0UpOPEInkswbci4CICw&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=634 > > or, iris leavigata and set google for pictures > > nb, Also Claude Monet made some mighty impressions concerning irises > > https://www.google.be/search?q=iris+laevigata&safe=off&espv=210&es_sm=93&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=EZS0UpOPEInkswbci4CICw&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=634#es_sm=93&espv=210&q=iris+claude+monet&safe=off&tbm=isch&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=ZYDEfwKDuCwaUM%3A%3BXoSYY-NtOpseEM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.passagenproject.com%252Fvincent_van-gogh_irissen_1889.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fpassagenproject.com%252Fblog%252F2011%252F01%252F25%252Fde-iris-bloem-in-de-kunst%252F%3B490%3B367 > > > About your work, yes i like to have an e-copy of some of your latest > writings, i would be gratefull. > > Adrie > > > 2013/12/20 Dan Glover <[email protected]> > > > This is a good example of what the MOQ calls the Code of Art. If memory > > serves, I wrote this story after a day of fishing with my oldest son in a > > creek that ran past a town where we used to live. I don't use a hook on > my > > line lest I accidentally catch a fish but I did enjoy our time together > > immensely. I remember seeing clouds of butterflies dancing past us as we > > sat on the bank in the sunshine talking and watching the water flowing > > past. > > I have no idea why the story was written from the point of view of a > woman. > > It just evolved that way. The finished story is a bit more risque than > the > > excerpt you offered but that's neither here nor there. I guess the point > > is, I had no intention of writing the story until it appeared on my > > monitor. I'm thinking that is what the Code of Art is all about... a > > mystery that once fathomed is no longer applicable to real and creative > > art. > > I'm not sure any artist can intentionally set out to be creative. Take > > Vincent van Gogh as an example... I remember seeing a little painting of > > his hanging upon a wall in a northern California art museum. It was an > > iris, nothing more... a single flower. We've all seen them. What he did > > with the canvas and paints defies rationality, however. > > I am sure he set out to intentionally paint the iris, just as when I sit > > down in front of my computer I intend to write. What happens next is the > > mystery. A million artists have probably painted flowers just as a > million > > writers have written stories. What makes van Gogh's work unique is how he > > visualized the world from the point of view of a mad man. > > Now, when I say: mad man, I am not talking literally although we all know > > he was confined to an institution for a time before he committed suicide. > > In fact, it was said he painted that portrait while institutionalized. So > > technically he was mad, or perhaps I should say from the point of view > of a > > society that expects its members to conform rather than stand out, he was > > out of place and lost for most of his short life... except while he > > painted. > > When I saw his work in person for the first time, I didn't understand > what > > I felt. I'd seen photographs of his paintings, sure, and I'd even ordered > > prints to hang on my wall. What I remember most was walking into a > > seemingly empty museum where my sister insisted we go. I was visiting her > > for the first time in decades and I thought we had better things to do > than > > drive to a shabby building that purported itself to be a museum of art. > > There was no one there. I wondered to myself why we came there. It > seemed a > > waste of time. There were various paintings hung upon the walls of > > nondescript artists who'd I never heard of before or since. She led me to > > the back room. I expected it to be empty too as I heard no voices nor any > > sounds at all. Instead, there was a crowd of maybe fifty people gathered > > around a spot on the farthest wall. > > I couldn't see what they were all looking at. My sister crooked her > finger > > at me to follow her so I did. By and by a few of the people in front > moved > > off and then a few more so gradually after an hour or so we made our way > to > > the front. > > I wasn't prepared for what I saw. I just know it made a sudden and > > everlasting impression upon me and when the nights are particularly dark > > and I am feeling sorry for myself and my lonesome plight on this whirling > > globe, I think back to that simple iris hanging in infinity. > > The Code of Art must mean something like getting it right, but how did > van > > Gogh know? How do storytellers know? What about the musicians and the > poets > > and the beauty they produce? Where does it come from? > > A Butterfly Picnic means much more to me than a story about a girl lying > > naked on a blanket in the sun and being ogled by a dirty old man. The > creek > > water flowing past, the butterflies dancing in the breeze, the food and > > drink, even the blanket... they all combine to lend an air of majesty to > > the mundane. That is perhaps what van Gogh meant by painting a simple > iris. > > He must have studied the iris, how it moved, how it grew, how it unfurled > > itself to the sun, and how it died. He must have become the iris in a > real > > sense. In the same way, by writing the stories that I write, I study the > > characters. I watch and learn how they walk and talk, how they interact > > with the world. I might write ten thousand words just learning who they > are > > and what they do. Finally, I become the characters. > > It is only then that I can attempt in my own small way to bring them to > > life the same way van Gogh brought that iris to life. He imbued it with a > > type of immortality... its beauty reaches across the years to enlighten > > others to the possibilities of madness and insanity. > > Now, I don't mean to imply I am anywhere close to the artist that van > Gogh > > was. I am an imposter. The Code of Art whispers its secrets to me and > > though I try to represent those mysteries the best I can, I am but a poor > > substitute for a real artist. I am like a child coloring with his crayons > > and doing his best to stay within the prescribed lines yet failing at > every > > effort to do so. > > Anyway... > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:40 PM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > An amazing favorite from 2007: > > > > > > > > > > > > A Butterfly Picnic > > > > > > Clumps of small white butterflies with black eyeballs on their wings > > dance > > > in spiraling circles along the creek. A woman is watching the > butterflies > > > play but she isn't seeing them. She sits on a green and white plaid > > > blanket. Along side her a loaf of bread and a bottle of wine poke up > out > > of > > > a brown woven basket. Sunshine tingles over her naked body. A breeze > > > rustles the cattails growing in shallow water beside the creek bank and > > > tickles the grass growing around her blanket. A long unused train > trestle > > > runs over the rippling water just a short distance away. Mottled-gray > > > stones at its base are crumbling. A man sits on the trestle on a ledge > > near > > > the top close by a metal ladder driven into the weathered stone blocks. > > The > > > woman takes the bread and breaks it, reveling in finding the soft > > > underneath through the crisp crust. She pours the wine. Raising the > glass > > > to her lips she looks up to see the man watching her. She starts but > > > quickly remembers that he has always been there. Sh > > > e watches the butterflies play but she isn't seeing them. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 20, 2013, at 12:16 AM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > I don't know if my giving away a few books has anything to do with > > > emptying > > > > my teacup but perhaps. I got the idea from World Book Day where they > > > enlist > > > > others in an attempt to give away a million books. I thought, why not > > > give > > > > away a few of my own instead of those of other authors? > > > > > > > > I never much cared for the term 'flash fiction' as it seems to > > accentuate > > > > speed over quality. I don't need writing prompts nor do I wait for > > > > inspiration to arise. I just write. > > > > > > > > Whether my stories are amazing or not, I don't know. I appreciate you > > > > saying so although the way you put it has me ensconced in the past. I > > am > > > > still deeply involved with my writings on a daily basis. As always, I > > am > > > > happy to send you (or anyone here) an e-copy of my latest work if you > > so > > > > desire. > > > > > > > > People ask me where my ideas for my stories come from. I don't know. > I > > > sit > > > > down in front of my computer to an empty screen and a blank mind and > > in a > > > > little while it is full of words. Most of it is crap but sometimes I > > > > discover a few pearls amid the swill. > > > > > > > > Anyway... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 5:25 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Hi Dan & Ian and all, > > > >> > > > >> I can identify. Have you any idea how many paintings I've dropped > > off > > > at > > > >> Goodwill hoping they'd find someone to appreciate them. Clean > slate, > > > >> emptying teacup, or just plain making room for more. Cannot really > > > >> complain, though, I love every moment in my studio. So on to making > > > some > > > >> art journals. > > > >> > > > >> Knowing how frustrating these MD discussions can be, I miss you > both. > > > >> Dan, your stories - flash fiction? - were always amazing. And, > ian, I > > > >> thought Grayson Perry had some important things to discuss. AND for > > > >> goodness sake, isn't it about making art out of life??? > > > >> > > > >> Maybe to start the year discussing the code of art might be a good > > > thing. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Marsha > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>> On Dec 19, 2013, at 5:14 AM, Dan Glover <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >>> > > > >>> Tear those books up, Marsha. Make 'em sad they were ever printed. > > > >>> > > > >>> Me, I ordered three dozen copies of my various books and gave them > > out > > > to > > > >>> the owners, managers, salesmen, service writers, secretaries, > > > mechanics, > > > >>> and porters at the auto dealership where I sorta make a show of > > working > > > >>> every now and then. Most times I just hang out in back and read > books > > > on > > > >> my > > > >>> Android. > > > >>> > > > >>> Anyway, some of them were happy, some didn't give a crap, one > > gorgeous > > > >>> little blonde gal who I'd really like to pork acted like a kid on > > > >> Christmas > > > >>> morning, and one guy told me he actually writes too... one of the > > > Mexican > > > >>> porters who details cars. > > > >>> > > > >>> Who'd a thunk it. > > > >>> > > > >>> I felt like I was handing out blankets to hobos. Maybe I was. > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:14 AM, MarshaV <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>>> > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Greetings, > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Just ordered a used library copy of zAmm to use the pages for > > creating > > > >> art > > > >>>> journal. Being a bibliophile it is always painful to destroy a > > book, > > > >> and I > > > >>>> have a great love for this book in particular, but what the > heck!!! > > > >> Soooo > > > >>>> symbolic. Not as dramatic as tattooing a paragraph on my body, > but > > > more > > > >>>> personal in so many ways. > > > >>>> > > > >>>> Btw, if you were to tattoo a paragraph, which would it be? 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