John said to dmb: ...demonization polarizes and makes change into a power struggle and conservatives insist upon having all the guns so it's a losing strategy. ...And I believe we've all fallen prey to that same bug-a-boo of demonizing opposition. 3rd level and 4th do often conflict, but they are intricately interwoven and it might be more accurately analogized as a dance, rather than a fight.
dmb says: Pirsig describes this conflict as a century long hurricane involving war and lesser ideological conflicts involved. To call it a "dance" is pretty far off the mark, I think. It also seems quite inaccurate and more than a little condescending to characterize my complaints as a "demonization" or polarization, especially since I was complaining about the demonization of Dewey. Check this out. Dewey, creative education and real democracy - in less than three minutes... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdV2YMpF0tA Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html