J.A to John and Andre : But anyone of you still can't hit one of these DEEP values with a stick nor talk to the stick. Aint that peculiar?
Andre: That ain’t peculiar J.A. Nr one: I do not know where John gets the DEEP values from…perhaps from his groin…could be anything but as Pirsig pointed out: do not confuse the different levels of values…they are empires all on their own, evolutionary developments one should not mess with…even in the head. That is why Pirsig suggested that inorganic and organic levels are ¨objective” in the sense that you can measure them ( i.e. touch, see, hear, smell, taste, feel them) and that social and intellectual values are ¨subjective” in the sense that you cannot measure them ( i.e.you cannot sense them [in the usual way of sense perception]). Your stick endeavor doesn’t make much sense in that regard. I mean, what are you trying to prove or what are you suggesting? Evolution seems to be a development from the gross toward the subtle (in Ken Wilber’s terms). I fail to see or appreciate the point you are making or trying to investigate. Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
