Hey, On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM, ngriffis <[email protected]> wrote: > Ron wrote: "... The passions are rejected. Pirsig, on the other hand, seems > to place more importance on emotion and feeling as a guiding principle > toward intellect." > > To shift Ron's meaning a bit, I wonder if the forum members would > agree that Pirsig places importance on emotion and feeling as a guiding > principle toward Dynamic Quality? Further, I would like to broach the > subject of how one goes about seeking Dynamic Quality (DQ) in one's life. > Let us hope that there are easier paths than insanity to reach DQ insights > :) > > I must say that I have benefitted, not from my own cutting edge > thoughts, but have only been able to add quality to my life through the work > of others. I have gained most of my insights into the static and DQs of the > world through reading. There is so much great knowledge in the world, but so > few instruction books on how to effectively apply it to one's life. As a > teacher, I see so much missing in this regard.... OK, I know I want more DQ > in my life, but how do I go about getting it?
Dan: I work a rather mundane job in order to finance my writing. In fact, my entire life revolves around these words. At the same time though, when people ask me where my ideas come from, I can't say, at least not definitively. If I sit down intending to write something, it's all shit. Maybe it's like trying to go to sleep. The more you work at it, the farther away it becomes. I suspect you already have 'DQ' in your life. As living beings we all do. The thing is though, we become distracted by the shiny pretty things that permeate our reality from the time we wake till the time we go back to sleep. The magic's gone, replaced by the latest technological innovations, the newest iPhone, the next generation LED television, just step right up and pick your poison, son. > > So, I hope that other members of the MOQ Forum will share any of the > methods they have developed which allow them access to DQ insights that have > bettered their lives. Dan: Insights arise at the damnedest times... while I'm taking a shower or driving somewhere or working at some mindless task. When I'm really wrapped up in my writing I often get stuck. What I mean is, the plot has holes in it that I can't quite fill. I get to worrying it. Working it. Mulling it. And when I'm pretty much ready to say the hell with it all and set the manuscript aside for a few days and work on something else, wham! I see the solution. > > My best contribution comes from, I think, Warren Buffet, who is said > to be one of the greatest investors of our time. One could call him a > philosopher of investing. He and his partner, Charlie Munger have some good > insights in to Life, as well. Buffet talked about his "intuition", the > source of that "intuition", and those feelings that led him to his great > successes. He said, to paraphrase, "that intuition without great and > hard-won experience is guessing and, more than not, runs you upon the rocks. > Intuition becomes the leap of insight that is of value (DQ?) only after > great study and experience." Why? I think it touches upon the idea that > genius, in one form, is the ability to rearrange what is known and with a > leap of insight, create a new and better form, something not imagined > before. One's mind has nothing to work with unless it has been filled with > the wisdom and insights that have come before. Additionally, Charlie Munger > added that, in this day of specialization, the more fields one accomplishes > oneself in, perhaps the greater possibility of a synergy resulting in a new > and better transmutation...a transformative insight moving us from static to > DQ. Dan: I don't know much about investing. Money is cool and all but it never mattered enough to me that I'd make a concerted effort to get more of it. Most times my shoes are fairly tired out and my blue jeans are cratered with holes. My bad, I guess. I do know a little about writing, though. There is a difference between a good writer and a talented writer. The good writer follows all the rules, dots all the i's and crosses all the t's. They are punctuation perfect. Their sentence structure is sound. They use all the words correctly. Yet the words they write seem empty, bereft of feeling. There is no wow to them. The talented writer knows all the rules but doesn't stop there. They develop a style all their own. Their words sing with an other-world melody. Their sentences might not be complete. Punctuation might be nonexistent. They might use a word in a way no one ever thought of doing before. When someone else reads their writing they might be offended. They might be embarrassed. But in the end, they say wow. > > I would offer meditation as a path to DQ, but I have terrible > discipline when it comes to sitting and also believe that Attention Deficit > Disorder keeps my meditations down to about a minute and a half. Dan: Yeah, I got all kinds of excuses too. Hell, I have a million of them. Still, I sit for a minute and then another. Started running last year... June I think it was. Kept it up through the fall. Come winter, I wondered how I'd manage it being as I live in northern Illinois and I don't much like the cold. I discovered the hardest part of running is just getting my ass out there. Once I'm hitting the pavement, I set little goals... make it down the block... make it another half a block, make it back to my house... go on and run a little more. Maybe I should mention I turn 60 in a week and haven't run since high school. Everyone told me I shouldn't run. Too hard on the knees. Too hard on the body. That I'm too old. It's too cold out there. Stay inside, dude. Get a treadmill. Better yet, just quit running. Sit and watch tv like the rest of us. So yeah, I got all kinds of excuses to use not to run. But I do it anyway. One step at a time. > Has anyone > had better luck with any of the Eastern disciplines to attain increased DQ > in their lives, a path, I think, Pirsig alludes to. Dan: No, not really. Thanks, Dan http://www.danglover.com Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
