Hello Horse, all, I recently read an article about the 432 hz frequency the natural frequency Of harmonic resonance And how it relates to music and the Vibration of the universe in quantum Terms. Tibetan mandellas are said to be based on harmonic frequency patterns of "om". There is a lot on the web about the healing properties of this frequency. I don't know how much is based in hard science but it's worth doing a search on it.
Ron > On Mar 29, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Horse <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hiya Dan, Adrie, 'ngriffis', Ron and all > > It's been a while since I posted anything but I was reading this thread and > it got me thinking - especially the bit about 'the magic' and it's apparent > propensity for wandering off every now and again! > I've been quite passionate about all sorts of things in my life and for the > most part that passion does seem to dissipate after a while - dunno why, > maybe it's the initial expectation failing to materialise and after a time > something else appears to replace it. Like you say it doesn't completely > disappear it just seems to get buried under other things - you can still hear > it's muffled little voice if you listen carefully. > But for some reason, for me, this has never really happened with music. I > can't remember a period in my life where I haven't remained completely > enthralled by it. Sure, particular songs, bands and even genres wax and wane > with worrying regularity but there's always something new coming along or > something old to be re-discovered. It was something that struck me when I > first read Lila and Pirsig talks about hearing a tune on someone's car radio > - I connected with that. > I've often wondered what it is about music that, once you're hooked, it > doesn't let go - I can't think of anyone I know who loves music that has ever > lost that love. It's kind of like a drug in that way - something you can't do > without, al least not for any significant time. Maybe it's less like a drug > and more like food or oxygen - something you have to have to stay alive. > Something that seems to be more obvious now is how most musicians don't stop > being musicians until The Reaper has a word in their ear - and in Keith > Richards case he probably has done already but Keef appears to have pulled > rank! > Maybe it has something to do with the 'Code of Art' that Pirsig refers to - > not something we've discussed for a while - as a link (or whatever) between > Static and Dynamic Quality. I haven't really thought of it in that way before! > > Anyway, as ever, good to hear from you guys- stay well :) > > Cheers > > Horse > >> On 29/03/2015 20:20, Dan Glover wrote: >> Adrie, >> >>> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Adrie Kintziger <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> Snip from Dan >>> "I suspect you already have 'DQ' in your life. As living beings we all >>> do. The thing is though, we become distracted by the shiny pretty >>> things that permeate our reality from the time we wake till the time >>> we go back to sleep. The magic's gone, replaced by the latest >>> technological innovations, the newest iPhone, the next generation LED, >>> etc..." >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Hi Dan,long time no see."The magic's gone,....i'll kept on reading this >>> line for some minutes asking myself where the magic went. >>> I do not think it's ever gone,or absent entirely but just maybe we become >>> lazy or losse a part of our natural wonder and curiosity. >>> I wonder, could i still feel or expierience wonder when i discover an owl's >>> nest or a little salamander when i'm fishing? >>> I think i do. >>> But i also think that a certain numbness comes along in life.Still , >>> writing like you do, is a constant playing with an unfolding reality,full >>> of wonder and new things to shape. >>> My fingers are rusty to typ, as is my English,but things will improve >>> beause i'm retired nowadays. >> Hi Adrie, >> Great to hear from you! What are you doing now that you have time to >> do it? Me, I've got a little ways to go before I retire and even then >> it'll only be from my Brotberuf... you know, my bread job. Yes, you're >> right. The magic isn't really gone. It gets covered up under a veneer >> of that which we convince ourselves life is about. >> >> I like to people watch. I was in the shop the other day when a father >> and his young son came in to have work done on their car. They both >> were deeply involved in the smartphones they carried to the point >> where it became apparent (to me) that neither of them interacted on a >> personal basis with each other or with those around them. Kid must >> have been five, maybe six, dad in his late twenties, early thirties. >> Well do to, a nice ride, wearing fine clothes... all the wealth that >> society can bestow upon any of us. >> >> It made me sad to watch them. Neither of them bothered looking up when >> I walked into the break room where they sat. I said hi automatically. >> That's what I do. The dad grunted at me. Just something >> unintelligible. The kid said nothing, nothing at all. Manic though. >> Yeah, there was a tenseness about them both, like they were on edge, >> probably from whatever game the kid happened to be playing or the work >> the dad felt was so important that he had to ignore the rest of the >> world. >> >> I had the notion to yank the devices out of their hands and slam them >> into the wall hard enough to break them but then the police would come >> and there'd be questions to answer and probably handcuffs to wear and >> it didn't seem worth the trouble. But I bet that would have woken them >> up from that hypnotic trance they were in. Do you think? >> >> Thanks again, Adrie! Wonderful to hear from you, and enjoy your retirement! >> >> Dan >> >> http://www.danglover.com >> >>> Adrie >>> >>> 2015-03-29 10:15 GMT+02:00 Dan Glover <[email protected]>: >>> >>>> Hey, >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 11:27 AM, ngriffis <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Ron wrote: "... The passions are rejected. Pirsig, on the other hand, >>>> seems >>>>> to place more importance on emotion and feeling as a guiding principle >>>>> toward intellect." >>>>> >>>>> To shift Ron's meaning a bit, I wonder if the forum members would >>>>> agree that Pirsig places importance on emotion and feeling as a guiding >>>>> principle toward Dynamic Quality? Further, I would like to broach the >>>>> subject of how one goes about seeking Dynamic Quality (DQ) in one's life. >>>>> Let us hope that there are easier paths than insanity to reach DQ >>>> insights >>>>> :) >>>>> >>>>> I must say that I have benefitted, not from my own cutting edge >>>>> thoughts, but have only been able to add quality to my life through the >>>> work >>>>> of others. I have gained most of my insights into the static and DQs of >>>> the >>>>> world through reading. There is so much great knowledge in the world, >>>> but so >>>>> few instruction books on how to effectively apply it to one's life. As a >>>>> teacher, I see so much missing in this regard.... OK, I know I want more >>>> DQ >>>>> in my life, but how do I go about getting it? >>>> Dan: >>>> I work a rather mundane job in order to finance my writing. In fact, >>>> my entire life revolves around these words. At the same time though, >>>> when people ask me where my ideas come from, I can't say, at least not >>>> definitively. If I sit down intending to write something, it's all >>>> shit. Maybe it's like trying to go to sleep. The more you work at it, >>>> the farther away it becomes. >>>> >>>> I suspect you already have 'DQ' in your life. As living beings we all >>>> do. The thing is though, we become distracted by the shiny pretty >>>> things that permeate our reality from the time we wake till the time >>>> we go back to sleep. The magic's gone, replaced by the latest >>>> technological innovations, the newest iPhone, the next generation LED >>>> television, just step right up and pick your poison, son. >>>> >>>>> So, I hope that other members of the MOQ Forum will share any of >>>> the >>>>> methods they have developed which allow them access to DQ insights that >>>> have >>>>> bettered their lives. >>>> Dan: >>>> Insights arise at the damnedest times... while I'm taking a shower or >>>> driving somewhere or working at some mindless task. When I'm really >>>> wrapped up in my writing I often get stuck. What I mean is, the plot >>>> has holes in it that I can't quite fill. I get to worrying it. Working >>>> it. Mulling it. And when I'm pretty much ready to say the hell with it >>>> all and set the manuscript aside for a few days and work on something >>>> else, wham! I see the solution. >>>> >>>>> My best contribution comes from, I think, Warren Buffet, who is >>>> said >>>>> to be one of the greatest investors of our time. One could call him a >>>>> philosopher of investing. He and his partner, Charlie Munger have some >>>> good >>>>> insights in to Life, as well. Buffet talked about his "intuition", the >>>>> source of that "intuition", and those feelings that led him to his great >>>>> successes. He said, to paraphrase, "that intuition without great and >>>>> hard-won experience is guessing and, more than not, runs you upon the >>>> rocks. >>>>> Intuition becomes the leap of insight that is of value (DQ?) only after >>>>> great study and experience." Why? I think it touches upon the idea that >>>>> genius, in one form, is the ability to rearrange what is known and with a >>>>> leap of insight, create a new and better form, something not imagined >>>>> before. One's mind has nothing to work with unless it has been filled >>>> with >>>>> the wisdom and insights that have come before. Additionally, Charlie >>>> Munger >>>>> added that, in this day of specialization, the more fields one >>>> accomplishes >>>>> oneself in, perhaps the greater possibility of a synergy resulting in a >>>> new >>>>> and better transmutation...a transformative insight moving us from >>>> static to >>>>> DQ. >>>> Dan: >>>> I don't know much about investing. Money is cool and all but it never >>>> mattered enough to me that I'd make a concerted effort to get more of >>>> it. Most times my shoes are fairly tired out and my blue jeans are >>>> cratered with holes. My bad, I guess. I do know a little about >>>> writing, though. >>>> >>>> There is a difference between a good writer and a talented writer. The >>>> good writer follows all the rules, dots all the i's and crosses all >>>> the t's. They are punctuation perfect. Their sentence structure is >>>> sound. They use all the words correctly. Yet the words they write seem >>>> empty, bereft of feeling. There is no wow to them. >>>> >>>> The talented writer knows all the rules but doesn't stop there. They >>>> develop a style all their own. Their words sing with an other-world >>>> melody. Their sentences might not be complete. Punctuation might be >>>> nonexistent. They might use a word in a way no one ever thought of >>>> doing before. When someone else reads their writing they might be >>>> offended. They might be embarrassed. But in the end, they say wow. >>>> >>>>> I would offer meditation as a path to DQ, but I have terrible >>>>> discipline when it comes to sitting and also believe that Attention >>>> Deficit >>>>> Disorder keeps my meditations down to about a minute and a half. >>>> Dan: >>>> Yeah, I got all kinds of excuses too. Hell, I have a million of them. >>>> Still, I sit for a minute and then another. Started running last >>>> year... June I think it was. Kept it up through the fall. Come winter, >>>> I wondered how I'd manage it being as I live in northern Illinois and >>>> I don't much like the cold. I discovered the hardest part of running >>>> is just getting my ass out there. Once I'm hitting the pavement, I set >>>> little goals... make it down the block... make it another half a >>>> block, make it back to my house... go on and run a little more. Maybe >>>> I should mention I turn 60 in a week and haven't run since high >>>> school. Everyone told me I shouldn't run. Too hard on the knees. Too >>>> hard on the body. That I'm too old. It's too cold out there. Stay >>>> inside, dude. Get a treadmill. Better yet, just quit running. Sit and >>>> watch tv like the rest of us. So yeah, I got all kinds of excuses to >>>> use not to run. But I do it anyway. One step at a time. >>>> >>>>> Has anyone >>>>> had better luck with any of the Eastern disciplines to attain increased >>>> DQ >>>>> in their lives, a path, I think, Pirsig alludes to. >>>> Dan: >>>> No, not really. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Dan >> Moq_Discuss mailing list >> Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org >> Archives: >> http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ >> http://moq.org/md/archives.html > > -- > > > "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments > that take our breath away." > — Bob Moorehead > > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > http://www.avast.com > Moq_Discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org/md/archives.html Moq_Discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org/md/archives.html
