In a message dated 27/1/01 16:29:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

> I like the Socratic way of discussion: rising doubts, more than offering

> answers. The most important thing is to persuade people to search.
>
>

Too right, and socratic to the core.  But of course, Socrates himself would 
even raise doubts about this one: how can you persuade anyone to search who 
isn't already searching, somewhere, deep down?  Those in real need of 
persuading, on this one, are precisely those who aren't going to listen.  
Another famous argument in Plato: how can we look for knowledge that we don't 
already have? - we would never recognise when we had found it, right before 
our eyes.  Compare Heraclitus "Uncomprehending when they have heard, they are 
like the deaf.  The saying describes them: though present they are absent" 
[b34], or again "Unless he hopes for the unhoped for, he will not find it, 
since it is not to be hunted out and is impassable." [b18].  There must be 
some hope, some search, some inner directedness, epistemological virtue, 
before men are even open to persuasion.  And that directness is directed at 
something, seen through a glass darkly.   Since we MOQers say that morality 
and ontology and epistemology are all one, it follows that with a merest hint 
of the epistemological virtues, a man has already some shard of knowledge and 
of truth, of the Good, of Quality, and it is with this first peice of the 
jigsaw, so to speak, that he may recognise and reconstruct the rest.  To 
learn is to remember, and to know is to remember exactly what it is to learn.

So let us not hope to set people searching: they will do that for themselves, 
if they will search at all.  Rather hope to be helpful to such searching, and 
not to hinder it by congratulating ignorance, or by asserting a final 
complete doctrine for all to copy uncomprehending, or by setting any one of 
the numberless bad examples of 'learned' [learn-ned] behavior that can 
displace the true epistemic virtues.  We can hinder enquiry in so many ways, 
and to prevent ourselves doing that is such a task that there is hardly any 
proper room for anything more ambitious.  Enquiry flows out of minds like 
water from a spring - there is no need for drilling holes and attaching 
pumps.  All you have to do is be wary of the dead flesh that might poison and 
corrupt the source, and the loose boulders that might block it up.  That 
watchfulness is task enough, and often enough we fail.

Anon



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