Hey Rick,
(!)
Look, if you need to redefine the rule, the way you do here below, just
inorder to get it not to include itself, then I think you are conceeding my
point that in that unless suitably ammended a rule does include itself.
ta ta
elephant
(and I'm interested to get page no.s/isbns for these fantastic rhetoric
books you keep talking about - known some fallacies in my time but yours is
a newun)
> From: "Richard Budd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:46:30 -0500
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: MD criticisms of DQ
>
> Platt,
> Sorry to butt in to your conversation but I just wanted to make a quick
> point.
>
> You wrote:
> ...I've been busy trying to persuade those who say "there are no absolutes"
> or "truth depends on context" that they commit philosophical and
> logical hari kari.
>
> I believe you have bought into the (very common) rhetorical fallacy often
> refered to as "the fallacy of self-inclusion". In a nutshell, the fallacy
> is the uinsupported assertion that rules must address themselves. There is
> nothing (logically) wrong with saying "there are no absolutes" because what
> the statement really means is "there are no absolutes other than the fact
> that there are no absolutes".... or with your other example "all truths
> other than this one depend on context and this truth applies to all
> contexts"....
> Unfortunately I'm bit rushed now, otherwise I'd elaborate more.
> I recommend that you consult a book on rhetoric or everyday argumentation
> for more on the fallacy of self-inclusion.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>
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