Hi Case Here's my suggestion: SOM describes reality and divides it into subjects and objects. MOQ says, hang on, this division can be eliminated and help us to see things in a new way, look there are patterns we call objective and patterns we call subjective. Lets take all the patterns and call them SQ. Now is there anything unpatterned left over, yes we'll call this DQ, what is DQ, well it is almost nothing! But see what it makes clear: SQ is not all there is.
David M ----- Original Message ----- From: "Case" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 29, 2007 5:35 AM Subject: Re: [MD] Mystics, Brains -- Matt has a question > Mark said: > You have made a fundamental assumption that DQ is being defined Matt. It > is not and cannot be defined. > > Matt: > Yeah, well, just as you said, "it is extrapolated from your own > statements." > My sense is that you're commiting a mistake, just as you sense the same > when looking my direction. I tried explaining my sense. > > It was an interesting conversation while it was, > > > Mark: Bye. > > [Case] > Since this is over let me point out that a major source of difficulty is > this business about DQ being undefined. Mark wants to define it so bad > that > he actually does but gives it a new name and claims that a name change is > not a definition. > > Quality is undefined. DQ and SQ are aspects of Quality. I see no reason > why > one aspect can be discussed and the other can not. > > Truly this is the sound of one hand clapping. > > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
