> [Dan] > The oneness is found by simply expanding one's point of view. > > >[Kevin] > >And if oneness is not an illusion then how is it realized? > > [Dan] > By seeing past the illusion. [Kevin] Yes. Oneness, non-dualistic thinking and behaving, inner awakening and expanded awareness are all realized when we see past the illusion. But I don't believe concepts have the power to expand awareness, not directly anyway. They can position us at the threshhold and help us how to ask the questions. But concepts are no substitute for experience. You experience awareness, oneness and non-dualistic thinking or you don't. These insights and realizations are are not transferable, i.e., God has no grandchildren. > >[Kevin] > >I believe that true life is realized when things that seem to be separate > >and dualistic are held together, not balanced. And that this is difficult. > >Is this what Buddhist's mean when they say "life is suffering?" > > [Dan] > Robert Pirsig recommends Steve Hagen's book "Buddhism Plain and Simple" > and I do too. Hagen likens suffering to a wheel being out of balance so I > think > you are correct in saying that suffering occurs when we separate the self > from all else. [Kevin] We all suffer. But no one should have to suffer alone. I believe compassion, oneness and non-dualistic thinking and behaving all go hand in hand. > [Dan] > I've heard Rohr's name but I know far too little of his work to comment. > Whether these are the only paths, I don't know. From what I understand, the > Buddha tried both paths yet only came to his realization after he'd given up > and simply sat silent. But again, I am not a Buddhist and there may be > others here who can give you a better answer. [Kevin] I would recommend starting with "Everything Belongs" (ISBN 0824519957).
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