> > [Dan]
> > By seeing past the illusion.
>  
> [Kevin]
> Yes.  Oneness, non-dualistic thinking... see past
the illusion.
> But I don't believe concepts have the power to
> expand awareness, not directly
> anyway.  They can position us at the threshhold and
> help us how to ask the
> questions.  But concepts are no substitute for
> experience.

     Yes, this is what I mean by dq is a rock.  Rock
is distinct, but dq is this rock, too, so the rock is
free unto itself, left untouched by concepts of any
kind.  The rock is left unto its' own accord
experiencing reality as a rock.  During meditation, I
may experience a rock as a rock, but what does this
mean?  No answer would be adequate.

     [Kevin]
> You experience
> awareness, oneness and non-dualistic thinking or you
> don't.  These insights and
> realizations are are not transferable, i.e., God has
> no grandchildren.

      hmmm, interesting analogy, "God has no
grandchildren."  Concepts are static quality, but the
experience of this whole, ultimate reality is dynamic
quality.


> [Kevin]
> We all suffer.  But no one should have to suffer
> alone.  I believe compassion,
> oneness and non-dualistic thinking and behaving all
> go hand in hand. 

     I agree.

  
frost on branches, on the fine norway spruce needles, 
SA


 
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