Hi Heather 12 Feb. you commented my:
> [Bo] I don't know if Dan's statement was meant to be > MOQ-based, i.e: that he thinks that the S/O (mind/matter) chasm is > bridged by the said equation, but that is not so. It's a purely > scientific (intellectual) thing... > Energy equals Matter. This means energy is > matter. So, what's mind without energy/matter? You may have had some epiphany (no sarcasm) but please let's keep science - physics preferably - apart from metaphysics, I'm tired of all this new age - new physics - that supposedly has bridged the mind/matter chasm, and those who believe that the MOQ is more of the same. I'm not the one who speak of what mind is without energy ...etc. I say that the mind/matter (S/O) distinction is the (value of the) static intellectual level and consequently isn't how reality is made up, only how it looks like from intellect's limited view. > Is > the clay pot just clay or a pot? I'd say both, but I > can't say where clay stops and pot begins. It is > simply a clay pot. As information passes through > wires everyday and night, can I point out the > information and divide it from the energy? Is the > energy in the wires a carrier or the information > itself? Again, it is both, I'd say. But this is language that (according to intellect) has "clay" as a substance and "pot" as a function, and what will we gain by blurring this great achievement? In ancient times (when social value was top notch) language still had this non-divided quality and various utensils, pots f.ex. were buried with the deceased to help in the next world (I don't think they believed that a pot would survive [they were intelligent] it was the "pottishness" that would) A particular word might also be used in a chanting ritual to invoke its power. You obviously have a yearning for the social existence, and so did P. while writing ZMM where the old Aretê times became his "lost paradise", but the later MOQ sets all this into a greater perspective. IMO Bo moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
