[Platt] For years they have been marching people off to "sensitivity training," better known in Chinese communist circles as "brain rinse." Once you establish that there is only one right way to think, the next step is full totalitarian censorship.
[Case] Odd I thought sensitivity training was conducted mainly in the corporate workplace by the same captains of industry who implement wholesale eavesdropping, video surveillance, random drug testing and warrantless searches. While I share your concern about totalitarianism I think you fail to recognize that it is not limited in the forms it can take. > [Case] > I do not think statistics in scientific journals can be manipulated in > this way. And of such manipulation survives peer review there are plenty > of journal readers to correct the problems. [Platt] Except in the case of global warming, those who attempt to do so are vilified, like being compared to holocaust deniers. [Case] So academic integrity is secure except in the areas you do not agree with? > [Case] > Platt would put "some-guy's-blog" on an equal footing with Science and > Nature. [Platt] An accusation without evidence. Also note how Case capitalizes Science and Nature as if they are God. Not surprising since that's how the acolytes of science think of it. [Case] I capitalized Science and Nature because they are the names of the two most widely read and respected scientific journals in the world. I suppose I could have put quotes around them but I doubt if that would have helped. In any event I think you just made my point for me. [Platt] Wild distortion. What we shouldn't do is put the scientific community on a sacrosanct pedestal to be worshiped as the dispenser of all Truth. God knows that "community" has been complicit in fostering errors including promoting eugenics, banning DDT and predicting global cooling. [Case] I was unaware that anyone had created a venue for scientific worship. If there is one please let me know. You keep saying the science promoted eugenics. When? Where? Science may rightly say that the human species could be improved with selective breeding and it could but there is no way to enforce such a breeding program. The science is indisputable the politics and morality make it impractical. The banning of DDT has had huge benefits in the rebounding of declining raptor populations and is a fine example of using scientific data to implement values and morality. Your continued reference to global cooling and today's temperature in reference to climate change highlights the shallowness of your understanding of the issues. [Platt] Please spread the word to your liberal friends. [Case] I am spreading it as fast as I can. You should start packing in less than two years we will have access to all those illegal detention facilities... > [Case] > We are dealing here with people who think that the extinction of a species is no big deal; especially if we can save thirty cents a month on our power bill. It doesn't really matter if the ice caps melt because it could be good for the real estate market. It's ok if we pollute the air and water because our descendants will be clever enough to figure out something else to drink and breathe. [Platt] Fear mongering at its best . . . the precursor of bigger government and loss of liberty. [Case] Presenting facts is presenting facts if the facts inspire fear perhaps that is inherent in the facts rather than the presentation. How you can claim to be a devotee of Quality and beauty and not recognize the utter tragedy of a single species becoming extinct is beyond me. Not long ago you gave an, oh well, so what, to the demise of the passenger pigeon which was willfully hunted to extinction. By the way corporations are a much greater threat to individual liberty than government ever thought of being. They are also the ones most responsible for fouling our collective nest. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
