Kevin, I see concepts change reality every day, engineers designing site's then using CAD(another working body of concepts) to translate that design to the mathmatics involved to layout that concept in reality the existing site. Then the bulldozers Start up and yaddaa,yadda, 6mo's later you have a business park like eagleview which we have designed since your familier With the area, Eagle tavern sounds great, though, plan on taking the rest of day off because philosophy mixed with Beer makes for a long afternoon. -R
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Perez Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [MD] the MOQ and its environment Hello Ron, You wrote, > [kevin] > "I don't agree that concepts have the power to change reality. This > kind of language attributes to both concepts and reality an artificial > existence, imo." > [x] > What do you call Marxism? It sure changed the reality of europe, > Nazism, platonic thought in fact the history of philosophy Is nothing > but how concepts changed reality. Math is a concept that changed > reality monotheism, ect...ect.. I call Marxism a failed attempt at controlling a society. What changes any society are the people that give it definition. If they're fearful, hateful, controlling and lack the awareness and compassion to see the innate connection people have with one another then they will do their society harm or at least they will fail to act for its good. And I see concepts, like mathematical ones, like E=MC², as symbolic representations of relationships and interactions between objects, real or imagined. Their power is not intrinsic. No concept ever opened a door or pushed a button. But there is a power or at least there's the potential for power. It's just not in the concept, imo. The power of concepts, it seems to me, is in their use. Communicate a concept to someone who lacks the capacity to understand it and all you'll get for your effort is a blank stare. Share it with someone who has the capacity to understand it but not the awareness or presence of mind or desire or gumption to appreciate it and you'll get indifference. But tell it to someone with the capacity to understand it, the desire to explore it and the means to act on it and you may just have unleashed the power of the universe. So from an MOQ point of view I'd say the concept is an intellectual static pattern of quality, the power source is Dyanmic Quality and the change is the Quality event. And then I'd say I have only the vaguest notion of what this all means. On a lighter note I see from your email address <RKulp at ebwalshinc.com> that you hail from Chester County, PA. Me too. I wonder how many times we've passed each other on Route 100. Perhaps a sit down at the Eagle Tavern some day? I'll buy the first round. Kevin --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
