[Platt] That Arlo likes amateur performers. [Arlo] Yes. Arlo is not an elitist. I'm actually a bit surprised by this comment, Platt, what with you being an "amateur artist" and all. One of the street performers in Tuebingen that sticks in my mind was a violinist, who was really Good. In the same vein, I enjoy seeing artists display their works. The "Arts Festival" in State College is one of my favorite times of year. Good food. Good music. Lively talk. Art.
[Arlo previously] The Hippies rejected both intellectual and social patterns, but confused biological with Dynamic Quality. That's the place to start. [Platt] By rejecting social patterns they created the nightmare Pirsig describes in Chapter 24. (See quote above). If they could reject intellectual patterns they would destroy the static level from which DQ can spring to a higher understanding. [Arlo] Perhaps. But it is more moral for an idea to destroy a society than for a society to destroy an idea. And Pirsig stresses the that "moral revolution" of the hippies moved away from both static intellectual AND static social patterns, and that this was NOT the problem, but the SOURCE of its morality. Only when the hippies would later mistake biological for Dynamic Quality would the revolution "fail". "The Hippie revolution of the sixties was a moral revolution against both society and intellectuality." "Phaedrus thought that this Hippie revolution could have been almost as much an advance over the intellectual twenties as the twenties had been over the social 1890s..." "The revolutionaries of the sixties thought that since both are anti-social, and since both are anti-intellectual, why then they must both be the same. That was the mistake." That sums it up nicely. So I'd say the "moral revolution" is just what Pirsig says, away from society AND intellectuality and TOWARDS Dynamic Quality. And if "art" is towards DQ, then a few lutes and drums are a good thing. But don't worry, an orchestra playing "highbrow" music would also be permitted to tag along. :-) moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
