[Platt] Not at all. Are you suggesting that everyone should get A's for their art?
[Arlo] I'm saying that exposure to more art is a good thing. Too many these days are convinced "art" is what experts and afficianados tell them it is. Jeez, what are we even arguing about here??? All I said was that it was nice to be somewhere where "art" was brought out of the museums and into the daily activity of people. Art doesn't just belong in a museum, or in a recital hall, or on a stage in a well-sealed auditorium. It is the living, breathing Dynamism of life. And we need more of that, not less. [Platt] Yes, but it went wrong, as did the intellectuals in putting down the military and the police. The question is, if it went right, what would the world look like today? [Arlo] It went wrong because, as Pirsig said, it confused biological and Dynamic Quality. Let me ask a pointed question. You are so adamant about social level control of the biological level, but you seem to want NO intellectual control of the social level. You use the MOQ to justify neo-Victorian restrictions to any biological activity you deem vulgar, but at the same time demand that intellectual control of the social level is immoral. If we need to keep the door open to Dynamic Quality on the social level, and hence bar intellect from its rightful place of dominance over it. Why does this same thing not apply to society and biology? Why is "DQ" so important on the social level but meaningless on the biological level? In other words, if intellect controlling society is "immoral" because it shuts the door to DQ, why does this also not make social control of biological quality also "immoral"? Or, if it is so moral for society to dominate biology, because of the MOQ hierarchy, then I'd say its also so moral for intellect to dominate society. Or do you want to have it both ways? Absolute social control over biology, but no intellectual control whatsover over society? Why is one level "supposed" to be dominant over its predecessor, but the other not? If it went right, I'd suspect we'd have more artists and philosophers, and that these pursuits would be the most meaningful and rewarded activities in our society. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
