Quoting Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > [Platt] > Due to disastrous public education. I like your qualification, > "anymore." > Back in the days of spare the rod, spoil the child, education was higher > quality. > > [ron] > Also keep in mind that social blind obedience seemed to be an > unfortunate side effect
Yes. But with school choice, there would be less "blindness." > Of that method. Question is, how do you endorse the free intellect > mentality when the > Method used is oppressive and draconian in a force fed manner. Your > modeling your students > For an institutional life, taken care of with no real need to think > independantly. Discipline in reading, writing and arithmetic never stopped anyone from thinking independently. > When people do > And become distressed they are encouraged to take anti-depressants and > seek consol. > If you encourge individuality then it is pushed to its limit and nothing > is learned > You have a society of "victims" with no knowledge or discipline just an > enhanced > Subjective view. You need a mix of discipline and freedom. > Question is how do you inspire the "want" the "discipline to learn"? How > do you first > Teach self discipline and then the thirst for knowledge As a standard? First you remove the crutches for those who don't want to learn. Then you get teachers who inspire students to become all they can be. > When the question was asked who should be paid the highest in society, > I say the teachers. That position must be valued by a society or the > society Teachers should be paid like anyone else, for their ability to do the job they are paid to do in a competitive market. > Degrades. High Art means little to a vandal. I feel academia is > reversed, with most > of the prestige going to Secondary learning. The battle is at the > primary levels, > kindergarten , 1st, 2nd When learning traits are developed. Right on. > Knowledge > is'nt > obtained by a whack o'the head- > Or I'd be frigg'n Einstein by now. But it has made me wiser about > answering > With what is expected from me and not with my individual opinion. > It has taught me "the nail that sticks up, gets hammerd down". > That's why I feel Pirsigs 1962 paper on teaching method is so > Poiant. Pirsig was an creative, inspiring teacher. We need more like him. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
