[Platt] Again, you imply the Hippie movement was more moral than Victorian values, but fail to point out the reasons why the Hippie movement became a colossal failure. Hiding again.
[Arlo] Alright, Platt. That's it. Your distortive little rhetorical games have now pissed me off. I'm responding to this round, but I am done. First... the Hippie movement WAS MORE MORAL than Victorian values. "... from the early seventies on there has been a slow confused mindless drift back to a kind of pseudoVictorian moral posture... [but] the Hippie revolution was the moral movement. The present period is the collapse of values" (LILA) Second, I've posted a dozen or more times, including LAST NIGHT about where Pirsig talks about the Hippie movement going wrong. From my post last night. ------------------------ About Hippies, we know Pirsig said this... "The Hippies have been interpreted as frivolous spoiled children, and the period following their departure as a "return to values," whatever that means. The Metaphysics of Quality, however, says that's backward: the Hippie revolution was the moral movement. The present period is the collapse of values." (LILA) About where the Hippies went wrong, we know Pirsig said this... "The Hippie rejection of social and intellectual patterns left just two directions to go: toward biological quality and toward Dynamic Quality. The revolutionaries of the sixties thought that since both are anti-social, and since both are anti-intellectual, why then they must both be the same. That was the mistake." (LILA) We can see from this that the moral trajectory SHOULD have been a "rejection of social and intellectual patterns... and toward Dynamic Quality." ------------------------ Indeed, my entire post was meant to look at where the MORAL MOVEMENT (Hippies) went right while considering where they went wrong. Hardly a "failure to point out" anything. But why bother with the facts, Platt. These inane little rhetorical games are more fun, aren't they? Hiding. Yeah right. I give up. Find someone new to place with. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
