Thanks Ron, gotcha now .... dialogue is nearly always worth it :-)
Ian

On 5/8/07, Ron Kulp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> [IG] Sorry again Ron, but I doubt it - "true / false logic on a firm
> foundation of nothingness" ? Where's the drivel fairy when I need him ?
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> [Ron]
> Let me un-drivel it, I'm stating that THAT is what essentialism
> does..ex. Existence exists therefore
> It's opposite must exist which is nothin-zip...(falsification) ,I think
> this is where Ham and Wilbur go wrong
> This is what I was trying to explain.
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> >  I think this is where Krimmel battles.
> > Pirsigs take on "betterness" seems to be an extension of the theory Of
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> > "molecular self assembley", rather than a means to an end or an "omega
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> > point".
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> [IG] Not sure about the Wilbur take, but to me the omega point is the
> last sip of brandy after a last supper in the restaurant at the end of
> the universe - the very end - hopefully before the waiter arrives with
> the check. To me "ends" are pragmatic things achieved. The Pirsig view
> - evolution - reality as self-organising complex systems - is so much
> more here and now - real.
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> [Ron}
> I agree. And that is what I'm I'm saying, I feel that beginning, ends,
> ultimate destinations,
> omega points, ect. Ect.
> Are generalized simplifications.
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