[Krimmel]
> We judge good ideas from
> bad ideas based on
> whether they work or not.
After this you went on to discuss Ham's thesis.
I've dismissed Ham's thesis numerous times, especially
when the discussion goes in circles never truly
reaching any intellectual footing. Debate is good,
but Ham likes to state he's got it all figured out,
and I for one like a philosophy that is nimble and
active - and freely admits change call this the dq
aspect of intellectual footing (static patterns). I
haven't got the MoQ all figured out, and by now you
might know, I'd rather be in the woods fishing and
meditating, yet, even here Pirsig claims the MoQ
accounts for such activities.
Anyways... I kept the above quote from you in
curiosity. A robber wants something steals it, and
gets it. He does it. He works. He does it again.
Culture says no, this is immoral. Might we be basing
moral decisions on what is best according to what we
as a culture deem best. Intellect is involved. Are
we making correct decisions always - no. Does a plant
bloom flowers and make fruit for children - yes, and
this works very well. The Navajo used to raid camps
and other tribes for a living. It worked very well.
It was stealing and preying off of other people, but
it worked. Other tribes couldn't stop them. So,
everybody had to get out of their way each time they
moved through or try to stop them, but this didn't
deter their raiding. Eventually the U.S. came
through, and all the "A good Indian is a dead Indian"
didn't help the U.S.'s moral compass, but the Navajo
were stopped. This is a micro-event and I'm not even
pointing at the U.S.'s imperialistic Manifest Destiny.
I'm making an example as to 'what works' might have
to wait a lifetime, generations, centuries, or still
be waiting it out. So, what is our moral foundation
to end all questions as to what is best? I just sit
with my eyes closed and go fishing looking for this
answer.
woods,
SA
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