Arlo, I'd find your load of shit more believable if you referred to yourself in the third person to support your "collective consciousness" or at the very least stop using the word "I".
Micah <Arlo] <Of course, and this why the "self" is the dialogic-fusion of the <bodily-kinesthetic "proprietary" awareness (BKPA) of the individual and the <"collective consciousness of all mankind" (CCACM). <My point was that Ham's idea of the "self" being the same thing as one's <"proprietary awareness" would only be true for an individual left at birth on a <deserted island. Although they would lack a concept of "self" as we know it <(since our "selves" are fusions of BKPA and CCACM), there "awareness" would be <strictly proprietary. <Better said, perhaps, Ham conflates the "self" with BKPA, which is misguided <and ignores the inescapable role of the collective (mythos) in the formation of <the "self"... while Micah can't stop 69ing Rand long enough to come up for air <and see that the whole "Epic Battle" is simply strawman rhetoric. <[Arlo] <Not in the sense of this discussion, no, since "self" is a dialogic construct <dependent on intersocial cultural assimilation. Like Pirsig restates Descartes, <it is not enough to "think" to make "I am", one must preface this event with <"so and so culture exists, therefore I think, therefore I am". moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
