Quoting ian glendinning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > OK so let's try honest argument Platt. > > Platt, you said in response to Ron > So long as the individual is valued by society as "prime," all will be well. > > As a generality that may be true, within a given level at least, and > with a bit more understanding - but we cannot ignore the levels. eg > The biological values of an individual can be overruled by the social > values of the collective. The social values of the individual can be > overruled by the intellectual values of the collective, etc ... > > The aspect of this argument I keep trying to introduce is that we have > an ongoing confusion between the individual-collective axis and the > intellectual-social axis. It's very hard to separate the social from > the collective, and, my main agenda, it also follows that we have > trouble drawing clean lines even between the social and intellectual. > Unfortunately as soon as someone starts to talk about anything > collective, you start your evil mis-representation of people's > positions on the subject. > > There is a serious debate to be had here.
If you can refrain from your ad hominem attacks and desire for censorship when you find that you disagree with me, then fine. Lets have a serious debate. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
