Comments as I go:
> [Marsha]
> I wonder how you could alter this? Ham's thesis
> was interesting (ignoring the creationist stuff),
but probably
> meditation is the best process.
Why do you say meditation is the best process?
> [Ron]
> Marsha,
> I have struggled with this for a long time. The
> brain is a strange thing.
So, is dirt. I'm serious you know.
[Ron]
> I meditate, and I am aware of the dichotomy of
perception and
> try to be aware that good lies in the bad
Your just in your head here. "I... try to be
aware." Why do you try to be aware of this and not
the air?
[Ron]
> that opposites imply wholeness.
yes, but the wind is blowing... the stomach is
hungry...
[Ron]
> It is the gut level, heat of the moment
> experiences that take the most concentration and are
the most
> difficult.
Yes, by gut level might you mean direct
experience, what is happening now (the wind is
blowing, etc...) As to difficultly in doing this,
that's the whole practice. Practice
being-alert/attentive. As to being attentive to what,
well, where are you?
[Ron]
> Knowing these things I should not experience anger,
depression and
> anxiety but I do...
Why shouldn't you experience anger, etc...? I
can be happy and another depressed. Should I not have
empathy, and thus not experience their sadness? How
do I rid not only my sadness, but others sadness?
Well, to not be alert and experiencing to my full
potential, that would put me in a position not to help
at all, for now, I'm the one that needs help. Yet, I
still feel sadness and anger at times. Can I remain
attentive and not lose concentration? Hopefully, and
then I'll be able to see my way out of this mess, at
least for now.
[Ron]
> I think the biggest lesson
> I've learned through it is that these emotions are
> every bit as viable and meaningfull
> as the positive emotions and trying to quell them is
> to deny a meaningful experience.
true, so true
[Ron]
> It takes courage to live a honost life, good and
> bad is in me not the world,
I still think I'm in this world.
[Ron]
> to avoid the bad and adhere to the good is living
half a
> life. So, to answer your question
> of how to alter this perception I think having the
> courage to accept and be open
> to all experience, warts and all, is the best way to
> overcome this, but that's my opinion.
Easier said than done. So, what to do? Oh, what
a nice cool breeze blowing through the back door.
Courage helps, but if you can't see what's happening
right now in front of your face (and I in front of
mine) then I might as well create my own universe and
live in it and forget about this one, hmmm, now how
can I get trees to plant here.
[Ron]
> This is my course with my tiny skull, to remain
> open in happiness and pain, and allow myself to
feel.
Oh, this tiny skull of mine. I'm such a big
oollff. Realizing what I already realized, to realize
again, that I've realized this already, to realize
that this is the true realization, but this tiny skull
of mine thinks. "Oh, but what about this." and then I
realize again that I keep realizing what I've been
realizing all along, but then I, "Oh, you big oollff,"
I say to myself.
shade in the maples,
SA
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