[DM] That is so wrong. You only get skeptical if you set up SOM and representative forms of knowledge. Wittgenstein, Heidegger, Rorty, Pirsig, Dewey, Whitehead shows us the way out. Come on Mr Fly stop buzzing in your bottle.
Experience is the ground, doubting it has no value, and to live we differentiate and linguistically construct its contents, these constructions transcend experience, and one of these many transcendent aspects of self-conscious linguistically differentiated experience is the world. Only Dasein is world-ing, as Heidegger puts it. [Krimel] You only get SOM when you relax your skepticism long enough to allow objects into the picture. Pragmatists are only saying that we have no more reason for extreme skepticism than extreme faith. Maybe we ought to just stick around and see what happens. Being onboard with the middle ground shouldn't prevent you from continuing to look both ways. -------------------- > DM: Is not Pirsig simply saying that all our ideas about reality have to > be derived from experience, this is where we must begin, there is no > great problem postulating that things like the world transcend experience, > but this is always a logical-imaginative postulate derived from > experience. > I assert-imagine that my attic has an existence even when I am not in it. > > [Krimel] > The endless return to solipsism. > > > > moq_discuss mailing list > Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. > http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org > Archives: > http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ > http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ > moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/ moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
