Hi DMB
> dmb quoted Wilber: > "Piaget's studies are pivotal, of course... he showed that reality is not > simply given but is in many important ways constructed;... > > DM replied: > Isn't that just right, and what do we get when we have a reality that is > not > just given, we have one that transcends the given. > > dmb says: > No, the collaspe of the myth of the given leaves us with a reality that is > inherently interpretive rather than objective. We're basically talking > about > a rejection of realism. Pirsig and Rorty share this much too, of course. > DM: What do you think 'not just given' when I typed it was meant to mean? Do you have a literacy problem Dave? My point is, if reality/experience is interpreted, we have to add something (interpretation, i.e SQ) to our experience, hence we transcend the given (how else do we evolve?-DQ is by definition transcendent, otherwise there would be nothing new entering actuality to be called DQ). Of course, as Hildebrand points out in his essay on Rorty's linguistic and anti-realist pragmatism he has taken a wrong turn away from Dewey's pragmatism that retained a connection with non-linguistic experience and our embodied and agentive life. Go and read Hildebrand again and stop the knee jerk posts please I am embarrassed for you. moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
