> [Krimel]
> So you would suggest scores on standardized tests as a measure? That might
> be a good start. Are there others measurements? 

[Platt]
I would stick with measures of assessing general knowledge, not standardized
tests which have been dumbed down over the years to accomodate the general
deterioration in public education. The viability of a democracy depends on
an educated citizenry. I fear for the future.

[Krimel]
All I am asking is: what is it you want to measure and how would you measure
it. 

> [Krimel]
> I am also curious about how you think some the examples above have 
> affected you personally. Have they enhanced the depth and breath of your 
> personal experience or left them unchanged?

[Platt]
Cell phone - don't own one.
Wiki - more convenient than Encyclopedia Britannica, but no greater depth.
MP3 - don't use. Videos - none enlightening that I can recall. 
But a book like Lila? Now that's a truly deep experience. :-)

[Krimel]
I am hard pressed to know what to make of this. You are saying you
personally were unmoved of the 911 victim's cries for help and tearful last
goodbyes. Your consciousness was unaffected by the photo of the American
flag being raise on Iwo Jima or the statue of Sadam Hussein being toppled or
the Apollo photos of the earth rising over the barren lunar landscape.
Television images of the Zapruder footage of the Kennedy assassination or
the televised testimony at the Watergate hearings, Clinton's testimony
during his impeachment, the Rodney King beating or the Trade Towers,
collapsing had no effect on your consciousness?

Living near a coastal area your awareness is unaffected by television
broadcasts of incoming storms pictured through satellite and radar imaging.
You really think paging through a two year old edition of Britannica can
give you information as current and far reaching or as quickly as wiki. 

None of this has affected the depth of your understanding and awareness of
the world around you?

I don't really want to think you are lying, disingenuous or simply that
dense. But if you say so, I am not surprised that you can neither define
"depth" nor suggest a way to assess it. Perhaps you have merely
misunderstood the question. Please tell me the later is the case.



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