Quoting Heather Perella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> [Platt]
> > So you believe the physical universe is eternal?
>
> WOW! We've made a jump from physical body to
> physical universe. I don't know Platt. Haven't you
> used the phrase, "Haven't been there to observe it,"
> before.
No. That's a scientist's response. For them, nothing exists that can't be
observed
and measured, except when they speculate how feathers help dinosaurs run.
> Some scientists theorize the universe comes
> and goes, comes and goes, some philosophers believe
> the universe is to reach some kind archetypal state,
> and some religions believe the universe is a lotus
> flower. I live, and I know living, so, I live.
Yes, but is there a chance that you will live forever? That's what Krim
believes.
> [Platt]
> > And what was the "matter" that existed before the
> Big Bang?
>
> I said matter that existed right after the Big
> Bang, but before atoms. Before the Big Bang, well,
> strings, parallel universes banging against each
> other, God's word, lotus flowers, Brahma dreaming,
> etc... Don't know how to answer this one, which is the
> same as saying dq.
Right. So like I said, what's static doesn't last forever.
> [Platt]
> > So your body will never die, you will never stop
> > breathing, your heart will never stop beating?
>
> I thought you were talking about body, not the
> body moving, I mean if my body can grow a mushroom
> then something generative is happening, right?
There are several body states, among them, living and dead. I'm talking
about that body, the one that lives and dies.
> [Platt]
> > Is that what you are claiming?
>
> Who's this I breathing and I beating? Body,
> mind, spirit, where do I begin and end when I move my
> hand and have these thoughts.
So you are claiming your "moving, thinking body" will move and think forever?
> [Platt]
> > And the dirt in my garden is as conscious as you are
> and can
> > contribute its wisdom to this site like you can now?
>
> Again, are we talking about body or spirit? I
> know when my grandfather died and they burned him,
> ashes were left over. You could use them for a
> garden, right? Do the ashes talk like me, and type
> like me? What do you think, surely you know the
> answer.
Geez, I hope your grandfather's ashes don't type like you. But if so, perhaps
you'll get him to type something in reply to this post. No cheating now.
[Platt]
> > Sometimes I have trouble figuring out what you mean,
>
> Well, the MoQ doesn't talk about body and spirit
> and this eternal light shining through the window,
> that other guy does that you quoted, so, if you could
> use the MoQ language to explain yourself instead of
> inserting other philosophies, then it would be easier.
> I probably use other philosophies, too, so we can put
> each other in check if we are to focus on the MOQ and
> see where the MoQ can take our perspective.
Fine by me. So where in the MOQ do you find the body living on as a mushroom?
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