> > [Platt previously quoted Lila]
> > "It's true for all people at all times, now and
forever, a moral
> pattern of reality as real as H20." (Lila, 13)
[SA previously]
> > "... as real as H2O." Hmmmm, so, Pirsig is
> saying static patterns are forever?
[Platt]
> I think he is saying its true for all people forever
that a doctor should
> prefer a patient over a killer germ. You might call
that a static
> pattern of morality. What do you think? Are there
morals that never > change? Like the doctor's duty?
Yes, I agree. There are morals that would never
change, such as a doctor's duty. This is a long way
off from forever being linked with life and death,
isn't it? A doctor reincarnates. Mike the doctor may
not ever die, for where do we cut off what Mike said
to his son and his son listening and doing what Mike
says, and this son has a son and tells other people,
etc... As for doctor reincarnating, haven't doctors
died and other doctors appear or are still existing?
Yes, Mike's body dies, but this death is a change, a
transformation into dirt. So, Mike's body lives on as
dirt.
> > [Platt]
> Do you think any part of your consciousness will
survive death?
Don't know.
[Platt]
> Do you believe in reincarnation?
In a way, yes, but what is reincarnation? I like
a recent book I read in which the author discussed
with the Dali Lama Tibets history. The Dali Lama says
there is reincarnation, but reincarnation is not what
the West typical understands it to be. The Dali Lama
says reincarnation is a certain aspect of a person is
a force in the world and that force can return many
times. For example, in a war torn region of the
world, a peacemaker may come from time to time
resolving these issues of war. The peacemaker is a
moral force that reincarnates itself in this example.
This is a very rough, generalized way of explaining
reincarnation.
[Platt]
> When I die I believe that the spirit within me
returns to universal
> spirt. I will then have either no consciousness at
all, or
> consciousness of of everything all at once. I tend
to believe the
> latter because those who have returned from near
death experiences > have had their outlooks completely
changed. Something profound
> affects their attitude and perspective.
Interesting that you believe this way. What is
this death/change? I notice we can leave behind parts
of who we are. For instance, intellectually I've left
behind myself in the archives of the MOQ.org. My body
becomes dirt. My son will socially mimic aspects of
myself, etc... But something else probably does
happen during this change/death. Something that has
to do with me that I can't readily explain now -
something I seem to just know, but don't know, as when
Pirsig says everybody knows what quality is, but the
question still remains not totally answered.
woods,
SA
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