[SA]
Ron, I wonder if Anderson used the MOQ.
Psychology (intellectual level) is not applied biology (organic level),
nor is biology applied chemistry (inorganic level). "...whole...
different from the sum of its parts (one with nature)." [parenthesis
mine]
Ron, you mention Topos (which I had a difficult time understanding,
do you have a simpler version somewhere, and since Kieth was asking
about it as well, I wouldn't mind a review). Ron, now your mentioning
emergence, too. Did you ever hear of punctuated equilibrium? It rids
the misconception Darwin had about gradual process (how evolution works
itself out over time). I say Darwin's misconception due to once people
actually questioned the fossil record (namely Gould and Eldridge) and
took the fossil record for face value, then gradual process became a
very, very small frequency of events in evolution.
Most, including Darwin, would just say the fossil record was incomplete.
Darwin wrote a chapter just on this incomplete fossil record. Gould
points out where gradual process does show up in the fossil record
(thus, proving that the fossil record is NOT
incomplete) it is a very, very small part of what happened at that time
in natural history. For only a very, very small amount of the fossils
where undergoing a gradual process of evolution. Most of the fossils
seemed to Punctuate a new appearance. A new appearance that shows no
gradual growth from the previous appearance the species had earlier in
time (in the rock strata). Species, in the fossil record, undergo a
time of equilibrium where no change is occuring in high frequency for
all the individuals in the species. Then all of a sudden, for the most
part the fossil record is showing this, the species changes, thus, the
punctuation. Stability, static latching... then change, disorder,
something seemingly chaotic... and then another static latch and
stability is restored so the levels are able to remain intact without a
total collapse into complete chaos.
[Ron]
Hey SA!,
What I was reading about emergence describes this as periods of
evolutional surges, just how you
described them, and also how Pirsig desribes latching. Topos theory, if
you can get a mental picture
of the theory of emergence and interelational bodies of systems that
operate independently.
Topos would be a mathmatical model of this theory of interrelational
systems. A model such as this
could predict the effects of change to the environment down to the
minutest detail. It is a more
accurate method because it does not use true/false logic, Topos uses a
running system of interrelated
value sets to simulate growth/change in time. Each Topos or body of sets
uses its own algebra unique
to it's operation but they output values that are used in the adjoing
Topos algorithm and so on
for example, you could introduce an equation for a toxin into a topos
model of a running environment
and observe it's effects. it would only be as exact as the complexity of
the model but it does allow
for un-thought-of results and closer precision if it is wished.
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