On 29/06/2007, at 7:31 PM, MarshaV wrote:
>
> Greetings,
>
> This seems an example of the difference between 'knowing by
> experience' and 'knowing by abstract manipulation'.
>
> Before Archemedes discovered the mathematical principles of
> displacement, people knew through experience which boats could float,
> which couldn't and which floated better.  After the Archemedes
> mathematical principles were understood, boats could be better
> designed for future purposes with more precise accuracy.
>
> What do you think?  Can this represent the Social Level vs the
> Intellectual Level?
>
> I don't let go very well.
>
> Marsha
>

Marsha also said:

>> Greetings,
>>
>> Okay how about if I change the language, or am I totally off track?
>>
>> Try this:
>>
>> An example of Social Level SPoVs might be like those connected with
>> ancient boat building.  Boats were built dependent on the shared and
>> repetitive experience of having observed which boats could float,
>> which couldn't, and which floated better.
>>
>> After Archemedes discovered the principles of displacement,
>> mathematical calculations could be used to design and build a better
>> boat for more precise purposes.  These might be an example of
>> Intellectual Level SPoVs.



And finally Marsha wrote:

Thank you for responding.  It seemed wise to skip the 'what is know
in mind' and 'what is knowledge' approach.  This example seemed to
differentiate even sophisticated patterns based on repetitive
experience as the social level, and patterns based on mathematical
abstraction as the intellectual level.  Archemedes discovery of the
principle of displacement had far reaching applications other than
ship building and demonstrates the genius behind intellect too.  It
puts knowing how to bake a pie in the social level, pi in the
intellectual level, and all seems right with the world.  But I'll
wait to see if there is a challenge.

Hi Marsha,

Thanks for taking the time to explain your ideas.  Not letting go of  
your ideas unless a better idea comes along is a good quality to have.

My question is; don't dogs and cats know things from experience?

Cheers,

David.
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