At 04:11 AM 6/30/2007, you wrote: >On 29/06/2007, at 7:31 PM, MarshaV wrote: > > > > Greetings, > > > > This seems an example of the difference between 'knowing by > > experience' and 'knowing by abstract manipulation'. > > > > Before Archemedes discovered the mathematical principles of > > displacement, people knew through experience which boats could float, > > which couldn't and which floated better. After the Archemedes > > mathematical principles were understood, boats could be better > > designed for future purposes with more precise accuracy. > > > > What do you think? Can this represent the Social Level vs the > > Intellectual Level? > > > > I don't let go very well. > > > > Marsha > > > >Marsha also said: > > >> Greetings, > >> > >> Okay how about if I change the language, or am I totally off track? > >> > >> Try this: > >> > >> An example of Social Level SPoVs might be like those connected with > >> ancient boat building. Boats were built dependent on the shared and > >> repetitive experience of having observed which boats could float, > >> which couldn't, and which floated better. > >> > >> After Archemedes discovered the principles of displacement, > >> mathematical calculations could be used to design and build a better > >> boat for more precise purposes. These might be an example of > >> Intellectual Level SPoVs. > > > >And finally Marsha wrote: > >Thank you for responding. It seemed wise to skip the 'what is known >in mind' and 'what is knowledge' approach. This example seemed to >differentiate even sophisticated patterns based on repetitive >experience as the social level, and patterns based on mathematical >abstraction as the intellectual level. Archemedes discovery of the >principle of displacement had far reaching applications other than >ship building and demonstrates the genius behind intellect too. It >puts knowing how to bake a pie in the social level, pi in the >intellectual level, and all seems right with the world. But I'll >wait to see if there is a challenge. > >Hi Marsha, > >Thanks for taking the time to explain your ideas. Not letting go of >your ideas unless a better idea comes along is a good quality to have. > >My question is; don't dogs and cats know things from experience? > >Cheers, > >David.
Hi David, Hahahahah. Just when I think I've graduated from kindergarten, another question. Knowing is magic (experience), so my answer is yes. Marsha moq_discuss mailing list Listinfo, Unsubscribing etc. http://lists.moqtalk.org/listinfo.cgi/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org Archives: http://lists.moqtalk.org/pipermail/moq_discuss-moqtalk.org/ http://moq.org.uk/pipermail/moq_discuss_archive/
