> [Platt]
> I favor whatever decision the Supreme Court makes. Otherwise, anarchy.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Nice dodge. Do you, or do you not, think that interracial marriage 
> should be decided by the states?

Follow me closely: I do not think that interracial marriage should be 
decided by the states. Why? Because the Supreme Court has decided 
otherwise. I support Supreme Court decisions. Otherwise, anarchy.

> [Platt]
> Are you in favor of the Supreme Court striking down current state 
> marriage laws to allow gay marriage?
> 
> [Arlo]
> Sure.

Figures. How about allowing polygamy? If not, why not?.

> [Arlo had asked]
> You seem pretty vocal that gay marriage would contribute to the 
> (further) degeneration of society. Do you believe interracial 
> marriage has as well?
> 
> [Platt]
> Not sure. Possibly.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Thank you for being honest.

> [Platt]
> Nonsense. Out-of- wedlock births, prostitution, pornography, 
> violence, drugs, profane language, discipline, upholding the law are 
> behaviors AS A RESULT of weakened moral codes. Behaviors are NOT 
> codes. Where is your brain?.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Fair enough. Then you are implying that things such as these would be the
> _result_ of gay marriage.

Only you would conclude out-of-wedlock births would be the result of gay 
marriage.  

> But let's take a look at your comment again.
> 
> "I think the effects are more subtle than that. When "marriage" comes to
> mean something other than socially approved union of a man and women,
> another moral code of society is weakened. For example, we have seen over
> the years a weakening of codes regarding out-of-wedlock births,
> prostitution and pornography,  violence, drugs, profane language,
> discipline, upholding the law,  etc., etc., all of which undermine the
> bonds that hold a society together."
> 
> You are directly associating the "weakening of moral codes" that 
> comes from "gay marriage" with similar "weakening of codes" (your 
> words) "regarding out-of-wedlock births, prostitution and 
> pornography,  violence, drugs, profane language..."
> 
> I've said my peace. This is a direct, atrocious rhetorical 
> association. Keep denying it. The evidence is right there in that sentence.

Only you would associate gay marriage with out-of-wedlock births. Truly 
hilarious.  

> [Arlo had said]
> I know, the great beacon of "freedom" wants everyone to be "free" 
> to  be like him, nothing more.
> 
> [Platt]
> I'd rather everyone be free like me than free like Marxist you.
> 
> [Arlo]
> Yeah, I know. When all else fails "Arlo is a commie".

Well, isn't he? Do you not subscribe to Marx's ideas? 

> Oddly, I 
> support freedoms for people that leads to them leading lives that are
> different from mine. If you call that "Marxism", be my guest. But it sure
> as hell beats "free to be just like Platt". Yes, it's quite convenient to
> be all for "freedom", when coincidentally all the things that people should
> be free to do are just the things you choose to do.

Better to be free to do the things I choose than become a serf in    
Marx's dictatorship.

> [Platt]
> On June 12, a memorial in Washington to the 100 million Victims of 
> Communism was dedicated. ("Victims" means "those who died under the 
> yoke of " in case you try to distort what it means.)
> 
> [Arlo]
> If you can show me one post where I've denied the brutal savagery of 
> regimes that called themselves "communist", or denied that where not 
> millions of innocent victims of these regimes....

Just a friendly reminder of the historical record your idol Marx has 
spawned. 

> While you look, I stand by my assertion that none of these regimes 
> was "communist" in any sense envisioned by Marx. Instead, they fell 
> prey to similar neoconservative thinking that strong state 
> nationalism, unyielding patriotism and "holy war" mentality was 
> needed to subjugate the flock.

What Marx "envisioned" is besides the point. What he wrought is what 
counts.

> By the way, gays could not marry in Stalinist Russia, or Pol Pot's 
> Cambodia either.

What's you point?  
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