>From: "William Roberts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>I'm thinking we have stressed "finding the answer" and "passing the state
>test" and "strategies" so much that maybe we have forgotten to teach the
>pleasures of learning.
>
>Bill

I hate say it Bill, but I see that you are from Florida, and I fear that 
this is exactly what we are doing.

I have seen the same kind of apathy among 8th graders in my school.  The 
teachers who are most successful with these kids are the ones who teach 
thematically, building background knowledge and creating interest.  It takes 
a bit of drama to keep them engaged, but it can be done.

Diana (also in FL)

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