Hooray, Lori!  
I believe you are right on target with that line of thought.  We spend lots of 
time telling students to be quiet; truth is, they need to learn how to express 
themselves orally to develop the ability to express themselves on paper - or in 
the classroom.  I like your thinking!
 
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I have been encoutnering some frustrations as well, particularly with older 
students.  I am not witnessing much that
encourages me in terms of discourse patterns at these levels.  The students 
seem overwhelmingly lethargic and reluctant to
engage.  It has convinced me we need to worry as much, if not more, about oral 
language and discourse patterns as we do
about anything else that we do.  Essentially, I wonder if our students have 
appropriate conversation skills to discuss what they
see or read, and if this is not the place where we should begin.

Lori


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>Hi Bill,
>
>I applaud that you have hung in there to try to get them motivated but  maybe
>they can't relate to those films. They might as well be in another  language
>for some kids. If they have no comprehension at all, then I wonder if  they
>could take all the pieces together to make some sense of it. Perhaps no one  at
>their homes thought it was an important enough assignment to actually leave 
>them alone to watch it. Parents might not understand the value of watching a 
>movie. When you say they have no interests, do you know what they do outside of
> school? What do they watch on TV? Maybe you could show a quick 1/2 hour show
>and  talk about it. Or what about picture books, maybe first start with a
>read aloud.  I know it's tough when you have a non-motivated bunch. Have you
>discussed with  the kids the fact that you are beside yourself with them? I 
>would
>recommend  Chris Tovani's book: I Read It But I Don't Get It. Good Luck!
>
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