Lori,
I agree.  Conversation skills are totally lacking in many of our students'
families/lives today. Kids (and their parents) spend too much time on the
computer, visiting their friends' pages in "My Space," chatting online, or
playing video/computer games ALONE.  Sadly, many parents allow the computer
to be in their child's bedroom, and as long as the child is "out of sight,"
parents think all is well.  Not so.

The Language Experience is a great way to begin.  For older students, you
can have each small group, of 3-4 students, read a short book together (yes,
even a picture book), then take turns retelling sections of it orally, and
finally writing the retelling on chart paper to share with the class.  [To
be sure everyone participates, I wouldn't recommend groups larger than 4
students.] A lesson like this addresses "reading, writing, speaking, and
listening," so would incorporate all aspects of reading--thereby meeting
your benchmarks. (always have to "document" benchmarks taught)

Bill:  
I loved your idea of reviewing a movie.  What a great opportunity for kids!
I would have loved your assignment as a student. 
One idea that I use with my 6th graders is to have them do impromptu
speeches.  Topics are placed in a bucket and students walk up, pull out a
topic, have 10 seconds to read it, and must speak for 2 minutes.  I usually
do impromptu speeches in either 3rd or 4th quarter, when students feel
comfortable with me and their classmates, and after they've had other
opportunities to do oral reports, plays, skits, etc.
Barbara/6th/FL

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I have been encoutnering some frustrations as well, particularly with older
students.  I am not witnessing much that encourages me in terms of discourse
patterns at these levels.  The students seem overwhelmingly lethargic and
reluctant to engage.  It has convinced me we need to worry as much, if not
more, about oral language and discourse patterns as we do about anything
else that we do.  Essentially, I wonder if our students have appropriate
conversation skills to discuss what they see or read, and if this is not the
place where we should begin.

Lori



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