Sally -- I agree that teachers' judgements of student progress is essential and 
 most important. However, I think you answered your own query (very elegantly I 
might add) in your note below.  I think we all need calibrate our judgements 
against some norms from time to time (say 3 times a year or so) to ensure that 
our own judgements are on track.   That is why I think it is important to keep 
assessments as quick and focused as possible.
 
Timothy Rasinski 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of thomas
Sent: Thu 6/28/2007 12:47 AM
To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group
Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Corrections/assessment



Here's what I don't quite understand.  Why do I need an assessment approach
separate from my teaching?  As a teacher I need to be reading with,
interacting with every student often!  I don't need a "separate" assessment.
It might be valuable to every once in awhile double check with some outside
benchmarks if you will (say several times a year to "calibrate" my judgment
with that of others) but mostly I need to be able to read with every student
individually REGULARLY and I need to be conferencing with and negotiating
writing goals and progress with every student regularly.  I need to have
internalized how to listen to and see student work knowledgeably.  So WHY
the big concern with assessments that are separate from my being able to
reflect on what students are doing with the actual real work of my classroom
as we are DOING IT?

Honestly, why aren't we trusting our own internalized understandings of how
to see studentlearning and progress through the actual work of the
classroom.  I'm not trying to be difficult.  I just don't get why this would
not be our ultimate goal.

Sally 


On 6/27/07 5:42 PM, "RASINSKI, TIMOTHY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nancy Padak and myself developed an assessment system we call Three-Minute
> Reading Assessments, Grades 1-4, and 5-8  (Scholastic).  It is quick
> assessment that is a cross between running records, informal reading
> inventories, and DIBELS.  From a few minutes of reading teachers can get a
> sense for their students' word recognition, automaticity in word decoding,
> expression/prosody, and comprehension.     We purposefully made it a quick
> assessment because we know that time is precious in classrooms and that time
> given to assessment is time taken away from instruction.
>



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