Hi Tim, I see now. You are saying the purpose of your assessment is to be that "several times a year" calibration and you've worked to make it short and still authentic and valid and reliable. Sounds good to me. I guess the only remaining concern I would have is for the teacher to be knowledgeable enough and know her/his students well enough to be able to judge the difference using a particular passage might have on an individual student. So if the "test" and the classroom performance overall disagree, the teacher would know to try a different passage? A lot depends on the schema and interest a student brings to a particular text. Does this make sense?
Triangulation is my motto. In the end I need to have a wide range of information to reflect and ponder on, preferably with my peers if possible. I'll take a look at the assessment at Scholastic! Sally On 6/28/07 5:09 AM, "RASINSKI, TIMOTHY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sally -- I agree that teachers' judgements of student progress is essential > and most important. However, I think you answered your own query (very > elegantly I might add) in your note below. I think we all need calibrate our > judgements against some norms from time to time (say 3 times a year or so) to > ensure that our own judgements are on track. That is why I think it is > important to keep assessments as quick and focused as possible. > > Timothy Rasinski > 404 White Hall > Kent State University > Kent, OH 44242 > 330-672-0649 > Cell -- 330-962-6251 > FAX 330-672-2025 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > informational website: www.timrasinski.com > professional development DVD: http://www.roadtocomprehension.com/ > <https://exchange.kent.edu/exchweb/bin/redir.asp?URL=http://www.roadtocomprehe > nsion.com/> > > ________________________________ > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of thomas > Sent: Thu 6/28/2007 12:47 AM > To: Mosaic: A Reading Comprehension Strategies Email Group > Subject: Re: [MOSAIC] Corrections/assessment > > > > Here's what I don't quite understand. Why do I need an assessment approach > separate from my teaching? As a teacher I need to be reading with, > interacting with every student often! I don't need a "separate" assessment. > It might be valuable to every once in awhile double check with some outside > benchmarks if you will (say several times a year to "calibrate" my judgment > with that of others) but mostly I need to be able to read with every student > individually REGULARLY and I need to be conferencing with and negotiating > writing goals and progress with every student regularly. I need to have > internalized how to listen to and see student work knowledgeably. So WHY > the big concern with assessments that are separate from my being able to > reflect on what students are doing with the actual real work of my classroom > as we are DOING IT? > > Honestly, why aren't we trusting our own internalized understandings of how > to see studentlearning and progress through the actual work of the > classroom. I'm not trying to be difficult. I just don't get why this would > not be our ultimate goal. > > Sally > > > On 6/27/07 5:42 PM, "RASINSKI, TIMOTHY" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Nancy Padak and myself developed an assessment system we call Three-Minute >> Reading Assessments, Grades 1-4, and 5-8 (Scholastic). It is quick >> assessment that is a cross between running records, informal reading >> inventories, and DIBELS. From a few minutes of reading teachers can get a >> sense for their students' word recognition, automaticity in word decoding, >> expression/prosody, and comprehension. We purposefully made it a quick >> assessment because we know that time is precious in classrooms and that time >> given to assessment is time taken away from instruction. >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mosaic mailing list > [email protected] > To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to > http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. > > Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive. > _______________________________________________ Mosaic mailing list [email protected] To unsubscribe or modify your membership please go to http://literacyworkshop.org/mailman/options/mosaic_literacyworkshop.org. Search the MOSAIC archives at http://snipurl.com/MosaicArchive.
